IS IT TIME TO SHOW THE WORLD??????

[Mosher79]

I wish the GFOL would give us a sign, one that the whole world would see. Not to make me more of a believer, but the rest of the world. It would give mankind time to discuss them, ask questions, and once and for all lay to rest the question " Is there anyone else out there?"

Many people will have a hard time grasping it all, Religions all around the globe will be challenged. Mostly it will make people think, open their minds, and hopefully embrace the Love and the Light that this earth needs.

Do you think it would be a good idea or a bad one? Your thoughts...............Thanks Mosher

[H.R. Pufnstuf]

And I say that's a weak excuse. They can come here and offer aid. We can CHOOSE to take it or not.

Scootiep said:

I would think that the answer would be yes but i'm not a channeler so wouldn't know for sure.

I am watching this video with Alex Collier:

http://saviorsofearth.ning.com/video/alex-collier-1994-interview

It explains why a "good" race would not intervene with us because of the law of free will, the only way that they would show up and help us is if we was not able to help ourselves, as Alex says "we need to stop looking at outside help and start to grow up and take responsibitlites of our own lives".







Andy (UK) said:

ok
so if they are channelled off an arab would they speak arabic?

[Scootiep]

Yes we could choose but that would mean we were not in charge of our evolution, which would take our responsibilities away from us, we should do it for ourselves, just like we should change things in our lives for the good.

If there came a point where we not able to do anything to help ourselves then we could decide to take help from outside.

I just think it's easy for people to say that we need help and not take the responsibility for our own lives, this is the main reason why the world is in the situation it is in today, people would rather have someone telling them what do, people need to think for themselves have there own opinions, not to be influenced by others, do it for themselves. This is the natural process of evolving, its to learn and how to adapt to situations, by needing help its like cheating the game.... but as i said before if there come a point where there was no way of helping ourselves (e.g people of earth became enslaved) then we would need there help and we would all take it!!



H.R. Pufnstuf said:

And I say that's a weak excuse. They can come here and offer aid. We can CHOOSE to take it or not.

Scootiep said:

I would think that the answer would be yes but i'm not a channeler so wouldn't know for sure.

I am watching this video with Alex Collier:

http://saviorsofearth.ning.com/video/alex-collier-1994-interview

It explains why a "good" race would not intervene with us because of the law of free will, the only way that they would show up and help us is if we was not able to help ourselves, as Alex says "we need to stop looking at outside help and start to grow up and take responsibitlites of our own lives".







Andy (UK) said:

ok
so if they are channelled off an arab would they speak arabic?

[Andy (UK)]

unfortunately we are not in charge of our evolution, thats the point..
we are controlled, we do as our govts say or else..

we need a sign of some sort that they do really exist, the rest of the world need a sign also, then and only then will any real changes start to manifest, once we know the truth and other know aswell

[Scootiep]

Yes i agree with you totally, but there might be a point soon when in January 2009 this might all change. as people have said that obama is a light worker and he will come into presidency it could all change for the good.

This would hopefully do away with the illuminati as their power will disappear with the fall of the money system and nesara would come into force - this maybe could be our last hope that would change the world as a whole and we could start afresh and be able to help ourselves, if this does not happen then we will need to ask for help and lots of it!!

Andy (UK) said:

unfortunately we are not in charge of our evolution, thats the point..
we are controlled, we do as our govts say or else..

we need a sign of some sort that they do really exist, the rest of the world need a sign also, then and only then will any real changes start to manifest, once we know the truth and other know aswell

[Bishop]

hopefully this will come next year.

[H.R. Pufnstuf]

+1

Friendly NeighborhoodSkeptic said:

I think we can probably play the "just wait and see" game forever and I'm sure people have been saying the exact same thing "just wait they will come they will make their move something will happen" for probably as long as the whole idea of the federation and these aliens exist so there are probably some people who have been waitin for some sort of proof since the 70's or something.

At some point I think its understandable to not want to go on blind faith alone, though i suppose i shouldn't use those words cause i understand for many people its a matter of just their own intuitive truth but yah everyone's different I guess. The thing that I don't understand is that they apparently have no problem communicating directly with individual people, they have no problem saying "yes we exist we are real this is the way things are" to individuals but never giving them anything other than that persons word to back them up. Yet what they seem unable to do is something like lets say making themselves known to a small group of people, say 5 people all on different ends of the spectrum in regards to belief and non belief, all given the same specific message by a being through channeling at a certain time and then find a way for them to fairly and all at once compare the messages given to them to add a little extra and a little more serious recordable observable evidence to back all this up.

I just don't see what would be wrong with that if indeed this were the truth, and I think the fact that it seems to remain this kind of impossibility is something that people have the right to be suspicious about and to take into account when deciding their believes.

Again that's just my personal opinion on the matter, I don't like to say I know anything for sure

Peace

[sunbeam]

I think most of us in the forum KNOW that our abilities come from within and that our journey has purpose and direction. We create the outcome - no arguments there.

However, my personal feeling is that IF we move forward spiritually as a world-wide entity, then we must have a mass verifiable contact. We are ruled by lying governments and deceptive religious leaders who deny the existence of life on other planets and they certainly would deny our origins are from other planets.

Until we can get past this enormous hidden truth, humanity is stuck in the insanity of it all. A visit from our planetary brothers and sisters is needed, not to save us but to VALIDATE us.

[RL]

jesus christ
lets stop whining
and start doing more stuff for ourselves

its like always waiting for superman to come save you whenever you get pickpocketed, when you can run after the guy and throw your shoes at him to knock him out (sorry im very inspired by flying shoes)

lets just stand on our own two feet first and not look so 'controllable' by our governments and whoever who desperately wield power over us shall we? dont make ourselves look like the victims all the time

COME INTO YOUR OWN LIGHT YOURSELF and FILL YOUR OWN GALACTIC SHOES

[sunbeam]

Sorry, Reb. In no way was I trying to play the victim role.

The facts are what they are. Try mentioning ET's to the average person on the street and see what happens. OR mention it to anyone who is faith-based and a regular church participant.

I'm not whining about the ET's showing themselves. I personally don't need proof; however, I do think it is needed to convince most people and get them thinking about where their origins are and what endless possibilities they have for themselves.

Calm down, my friend.

[Ted]

Flying shoes are unidentified flying objects (ufos). I think we have a proof here..

[RL]

LOL okay i shall be calmer here.

Lets talk about alternatives to show others then. There ARE always alternatives that you can control and present in the present moment. it doesnt always have to be an UFO because theyre not sold in departmental stores.

Let others know the power they wield which you too, wield. You do not really have to show them a UFO first. Show them what you have first.

Thats a small part of the reason why i'm learning how to bend spoons, auto write, help others with my auto writing, dropping hints about the moon and lots of other things that i've discovered here, auto write in Sirian, learn how to do remote healing, blogging about all my discoveries here.

Yes, you are right in no one will believe you if you dont show them proof. A small part of me would like to show them a little taste of proof first when i bend an impossibly strong spoon in front of them. (the rest of the main parts is just to learn how to come into my own power, and a tiny part is just for my own amusement)

Teach them how to bend the spoon or other 'abilities' like healing and etc. or for the scientifically inclined, show them experiments with the theories that we've learnt here (plant consciousness, free energy, etc) and make your friends realise they do CAN do what YOU do. and they'd go off and learn more on their own. Hopefully, once they know other more interesting things other than making money in a cell-like cubicle, they will open their eyes.


You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink. Because it has god-given free will.
So, you gotta tempt it to the water.


Bend a spoon in front of everyone at church mass, Christmas parties, or any other gathering

Create a free energy motor in science class, or do experiments with energy and consciousness and send it for publishing in scientific journals

Blog like hell about your findings and discuss about the possibilities



If the lightships just suddenly come RIGHT NOW, its gonna create hell on earth instead of heaven on earth because lots of earthians just want to live a normal life, working in their 9-to-5s, idolising pop idols, watching TV, getting hitched and doing 'cool' stuff that the media shows them. It'll be a violation of their free will.

So, my suggestion is persuade their free will over.

Does anyone else have suggestions too?

[RL]

LOL Ted. flying shoes are identified
so they'd be IFOs (identified flying objects)

unless of course, we go deeper, and realise the shoe is just an illusion
made up of atoms which are mostly empty space
so we dont really know what it is,

and we come back to the conclusion, it is Unidentified. LOL