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That was really well said Dan. I totally get what you are saying. Although many of the public figures and spiritual speakers are offering us wonderful food for thought...they are just the same as us. I have not been a fan of Oprah for some time now, simply because I believe she has either lost her way, or she has been altered somehow. When I heard she did put her interview with Hicks on a radio and not tv because she did not think people were ready for the spiritual awakening and having more information on what the secret really is. Who is she to decide the fate of humanities spiritual growth. There are going to be people become unstable no matter what...but there will be many that finally adapt to the evolutionary changes. People will and must open their minds and perspectives.
I think these public speakers are to be commended and held with gratitude for inspiring so many souls to ask more questions. There is duality in all things. :o) Oh and Happy Thanksgiving Dan !
Dan said:
Deborah...I don't want to open a can of worms here and I just want to make a little clearer on what my message was about.
It's good that Dr. Wayne Dyer saved you and many and I have read some of his books and watched some of his video, they are excellent, I'm not saying they are not. I also really like him and I hope he continues on his journey and helps many more people attain a higher level of consciousness. We also need more people like him. My point is with a lot of self proclaimed "New Age Guru's and Healer's" out there that seems to be springing up lately... especially by simply appearing on Oprah's show that; we should be a little careful of this. Again don't get me wrong ....Oprah did a lot of good in this world but recently it appears she's backing up people like Gates and Barry Soetoro. The first one seems to be promoting reducing world population, and the other is appearing to be speeding the agenda of Mr. Bush for some reason (Change What?). Also when Obama won the election and they way the people adorned him.. is very concerning. Hitler won his election the same way and preached (Change) in the exact manner. Oprah praised him as if he was the lord coming to save us but after one year in office... I tend to differ what she's thinking now.
Then, if you are what you proclaim to be, and what you are, then I think you should set good example to other people. Dr. Phil is not exactly leading by example with the latest tabloids recently showing his infidelity and getting a divorce. Remember, this is the same guy who preaches what you should do or not, by doing the same thing he talked against. Again, this may or may not be true and he's not a bad person but a lot of power and money has a tendency to do strange things to people. Wayne Dyer is really good and I'm not saying not, but he's seems to be going down the same path as Dr. Phil. I hope he doesn't. Deborah you're right too that we need more of them and their ideas, not less but at the same time we need to be careful on who they are, and what they represent also.
All I'm saying is do your own research and follow the rabbit hole. If the hole has light, then the rabbit should be nice, white and fluffy. If the hole is turning dark and the rabbit has big teeth and angry, then the hole is not the good choice. I think we should all question everything before make our own decisions this is why we are all different and that is good. Some people are against this light and we have to keep it bright so we can light all the dark holes out there.
Keep shining!
Deborah Voysey said:At the mention of Dr. Wayne Dyer, I suggest reading: "Your Sacred Self". I think it's a great idea if he becomes "like Dr. Phil/Oprah" - because his ideas SAVED me from myself and the negativity/fear surrounding me in this world.
I've heard people lately trashing Dr. Phil, and don't know what that's about--except to say that the "psychology-sector " of "approved Federal guidelines" doesn't want all these "getting- healthier- people around". They have all kinds of "treatments, and advice that are just wrong and even detrimental". I implicitly trust Dr. Wayne Dyer.
Dan, you said: "I think it's time for all the Eckart Tolle's and the Wayne Dyer's of the world who made it rich, to go on national T.V. and hit the masses that would have a great gift for humanity." I AGREE we need more of them and their ideas, not less. We need to try to grab ANY FORM of positive input. We need to be stable, happy & free !! (against the NWO proponents).
I hear you, Dan, and I see what you mean. No can-of-worms here - just an interesting discussion.
IMHO, the bottom line is that we are ALL children of God and brothers and sisters - placed on earth for a reason. We all have our parts to play in this game, and it is up to us to choose our own paths. It is great that you have discerned something troubling to you...(like the "adoration" of Obama). It's is certainly a "red flag" that we need to be discerning about. So, even the negativity has a purpose...and that is to be a "mirror" for ourselves. Our only choice is to either accept it for ourselves - or NOT. You've done that, so bravo!
I've decided that when my focus is on the "out there" I tend to ignore/discount my self...and that's how the game works!! I'm realizing that the game of publicity, power and money is just that...a game, and an illusion. We have no control over what these people do, but we can control how we react to them. It's a good thing to question public figures like this, because it brings discernment and when you share your own discernment...like you did...it wakes others up, and the duplicity can be seen for what it is. I have to remind myself sometimes, that when we're doing LOVE - there is no duplicity. I so agree that we need Eckhart Tolle and others to get out there - and disseminate some TRUTH and LOVE.
About the tabloids : they are not real either...Dr. Phil refuted the stories printed about him...so we can't believe everything we read - esp. the tabloids...they are lies meant to cast negativity...just to sell copies of "the rag".
I like to think in terms of "public abuse" because it simplifies it. People who say/do some really good things - and then turn around to a totally different "track" are the ones who are confused, and they haven't come to the point where Love is All There Is.
Thanks tranceman,
I will certainly check him out as I have seen a clip of him and David Wolf together. I only hope that they will not trigger some kind of holocaust as we are more exposed than them. The only weapon for us is oneness if we pull together we can beat this evil. I also hope this hard lessons will not kill 80% of us like they openly want now. I think we have to use non-violence and non-compliance if we want to win this but they will push hard for use to use it, as it will look better for them and easier to use their weapons against us.
Gandhi:
“Nonviolence is a weapon of the strong”
tranceman said:I suggest you head on over to divinecosmos.com and read some of David Wilcock's articles. He speaks to how we are under benevolent E.T. Management that will not let the dark cabal destroy the planet or kill millions of people. We are here to learn a lesson about how power & greed corrupts and how grand deception can occur. Once more people awaken and critical mass is reached, then the game will be coming to a close and we will head full speed into a world filled with prosperity, compassion and happiness. We will also be celebrating with our E.T. family and can travel to other worlds if that is our choosing. Don't worry, the future will be a bright one my friend.
The worst part of this is that you are only trying to protect the people that are so dearly close to you and they keep their heads in the sand. I'm still sending some clips or news about them destroying our foods and Chem Trails and still no answer. Yes, Ignorance is bliss in the end and they will still not acknowledged what I've been trying to say to them when the shit hits the fan. This is very difficult for me now as its dividing us more than it should keep us closer together as its so pretentious now. You are very lucky Debra to at least have an aunt who understands you as me its like a bad dream. By the way your last name sounds familiar....do you have any relatives in Canada?
Keep Shining Deb and many thanks!
Debra Kay Ouellette said:
Yes friends, it's sometimes very lonely for those of us who are Lightworkers and the teachers for those individuals who are coming into their Awakening. I know how everyone in this discussion thread feels. The only one in my family who understands is my auntie who is somewhat psychic herself. But I love my family and accept that they'd never understand where I'm coming from.
Dan, I think some are in denial and too scared to face the facts. I would mean they would have to completly re-evaluate their whole belief system and change the way they think. Most people fear change and fear the unknown. Its hard to switch all of a sudden. Be patient, they may be working it out and not admitting it to you. Have faith, Dan. They will come arround sooner or later. They will have look, because before long relaity will be coming from all directions.
Debra, you are blessed to have an auntie that understands.
Nice....so we are same blood for sure as I too have family especially in NB. First Nations people are very spiritual and I'm sure my ancestors lived with them as I'm of french background also. The Miq maq blood and the French blood were blessed in peace as the Mic maq had a lot to do with protecting the Acadians trying to escape the tyranny of 1755 by the Anglo. Yes, it is nice to be fluent in French as I suspected because of your last name. I'm a Cormier so its pretty common second name in french.
Welcome to SoE my sister
Thanks Simpleman,
I hope you're feeling better and great to see you back on SoE.
You're right.....simpleman denial is our greatest challenge that we face now and the illuminati knows this. Humanity is waking up now and they are throwing everything but the kitchen sink at us. This is the reality we are in right now....and we made this happen, so now it's going to be time for us to learn the lessons soon. I just watched Bob Dean interview on Project Camelot and the Great Guru hit the hammer on the head. At least....I can listen to somebody who thinks like me once in a while. For some of us that knows this.....we have front row tickets and we are watching the greatest show on earth play right in front of us. I wonder if the rest of the people will be ready soon.
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?17981-Project-Camelo...
simpleman said:
Dan, I think some are in denial and too scared to face the facts. I would mean they would have to completly re-evaluate their whole belief system and change the way they think. Most people fear change and fear the unknown. Its hard to switch all of a sudden. Be patient, they may be working it out and not admitting it to you. Have faith, Dan. They will come arround sooner or later. They will have look, because before long relaity will be coming from all directions.
Debra, you are blessed to have an auntie that understands.
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