Abandonment

[Leslie Lloyd]

I am trying to figure out if anyone else is experiencing abandonment of family and friends. I have discovered through the loss of my Son that I am a light worker. I wanted to tell my family and friends about what is up in these changing times. It back fired on me and my family has turned their backs on me. I am hurt deeply. Today is my birthday and I could care less. I feel like I am grieving loss again and they have sucked all of the positive light right out of me. Please pray for me and that my family wakes up and returns to me.

[Leslie Lloyd]

http://www.lichtarbeit-verführung.de/devil.html

I don't know why these links won't work. Try manually typing the link. This lady is very extreme. Enter with caution!

[simpleman]

Happy Birthday!!! late

Leslie, you should be proud of your self. What you did took courage. With your choice, you followed your heart and intuition. Thats the part of us where God lives. It takes guts to stand up for what you belive in and you did this with out fear of the outcome. That is part of living in the now. You family reacted out of denial. They know in their heart that what you are saying is truth, but the programming we all have built inside us from childhood is hard to rewrite. The truth can be shocking for some, so we take it down a notch, go slower, baby steps. Much of the time I plant seeds and then let them grow, but water and fertiliser does help . Most of the time they come back want to hear more. Those who dont, it will take longer. they will have to start hearing it from other people. Some times you have to show them. Your family seams to turned their back, but their head is spinning and they dont know what to do. If they try to convince you that your wrong, then they only do it because they are ignorant of divine truth and they do it because they still love you. They are lost though, so stand your ground, be like the tree that has her roots planted deeply in the Earth and stands tall and firms. The tree doesnt run away in the face of danger, it stands there and takes danger head on. That is when you begin to live. To live without fear is to be truly free. You have many smiling on you from heaven now. Your angels and guides and others are working with you to nurture the seeds you planted. So give it time. The may seem determined to save you from damnation, but they think they are dong the right thing. Forgive them Leslie. If the are persistant or harass you, then you can take legal action. You have the right to believe what you want. Just hang in there and dont look back.

Love Light and Wisdom

simpleman

[brandy rox]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7727907925097415055#

sorry i meant to link a video like this

[Leslie Lloyd]

Thank you for making you feel better. I have included an awesome you tube video I found.

Simone said:

Hi Leslie, I just wanted to let you know that I had a chance to look at the link you posted. I know exactly what you mean when you said 'They live in fear of God'. It's kinda sad. Once you've really experienced God as you seemed to have at your son's passing, you will never doubt again that God is Love. I think it is ironic that you say to be careful when you click on that link, because when I am on Christian forums and people post links to 'New Age' sites, they 'warn' you to enter with caution lol. I think people focus on what is already in their hearts and 'hone' in on words that support their perspectives. Brandy Rox's post is great. There are plenty of positive uplifting scriptures that many Christians totally overlook. I've had discussions on Christian forums and they are always 'attacking' others and condemning them for the slightest difference in belief, even amongst themselves. Even though not everyone here is in agreement as to what our understanding is of these multidimensional beings angels or ETs or whatever you want to call them are, or what will happen in 2012 and all these channellings, I have experienced a lot more love on this site and felt a freedom to be able to express myself without fear of condemnation. I can tell you, that as long as we don't have the freedom to express ourselves and share the Truth of ourselves as personal Witnesses to the Truth, we will never get to the bottom of it. First there has to be love and acceptance and understanding and freedom to discuss these topics... THEN we will begin to understand them. As far as the bible goes, I've read the whole thing several times over. Your description of your spiritual discovery and being accused of blasphemy is to be expected. Christians do not accept their divine nature and run around in circles ignoring the scriptures and rationalizing the ones away that specifically tell us of our divine nature. I tend to focus on Jesus' words in the Gospels, and not as much on the Old Testament or the other New Testament writings. I tend to view the other writings as Human beings' understanding of their own history and their interpretations of events and of who God is. The 'meat' of the bible is in Jesus' words. You can even narrow it down further to the Sermon on the Mount and Jesus' command to 'love one another as I have loved you." Jesus says, 'do you not know that you are gods?' and 'You are the temple of the Holy Spirit'. "Judge not, lest ye be judged". I could go on and on of how Christians totally 'miss the point'. It takes a lot of intense study to really understand the Bible and there are so many differing opinions, that it is nearly impossible to get a consensus among Christians on interpretations. We've had our bumps in the road here on this forum, but for the most part people are respecting of other's beliefs. Jesus' prayer to God was, /that we would all be united as one and He and the Father are one/ yet so few Christians seem to have no desire to fulfill that command and are setting such a poor example of what Jesus calls true Christians to be. They have no sense of respect or kindness it is such an embarrassment. People are so fed up with their behavior that they are called 'Christ tards' and then they 'rationalize' it away again by saying they are being 'persecuted' in Christ's name. As far as the Christian belief that one must believe in Jesus in order to be 'saved'... Christians totally ignore another scripture that says that those that call his name are NOT necessarily 'saved' and you don't necessarily have to 'know' Him, that 'whatever you do to the least of my children, you do it to me' (regardless if you know it is Him or not, your kindness and love and acts of mercy 'saves' you) so you do NOT have to be Christian to be 'saved' according to the bible itself. Besides all this, Jesus specifically says 'fear not' several times in the Bible, and to call God 'daddy' (Abba)... not to fear God. As far as the ETs possibly being 'demons', or negative entities, that too is discussed here. The Christian claim is that if you say the name of Jesus, they 'go away'... well good, that's easy enough, so if that is true, then what are they afraid of? I have no doubt in the sincerity of your heart and your seeking the truth on your spiritual journey, and have total confidence in you as you should have in yourself to make wise choices. Your family should feel the same way also, but yeah, it is not you it is their own fears. Anyway, I could go on and on with my fault finding about that link. There are people of all different beliefs and backgrounds on this ning, so I hope you feel at home and welcome. I also wish you peace and love and healing over the loss of your son.

[Leslie Lloyd]

Yes, I have learned that unless the person is standing in front of me asking for help in awakening I shall remain quite. Each person is exactly where they are supposed to be when they are supposed to be there.

Simone said:

I wouldn't let your family's reaction dictate to you how you may be able to help others to awaken. You will be surprised. Your family's reaction is 'practice' so that you can better discern who is ready to hear and who is not. It's not your job to share with people who are not ready. It is up to them to be seeking for answers. We are just here to help those who are already in the process of awakening who may be experiencing confusion. Once they have their 'awakening experience' all they have to do is start searching the internet and seeking answers and they will find us. The spirit will guide each soul to the answers they are seeking. Each person has a different alarm clock setting to awaken. Don't worry about your family. It hurts that those closest to us cannot hear what we have to say, but we need to be patient. I was surprised how much information was already on the internet when I 'woke up' in 2007 and looked up the word 'awakening' on the internet and '11:11' and 2012, and precession etc. I was surprised that there were others who had 'awakened' years and years ago and had been lightworkers for many years. When I first woke up I felt very alone, like I was the only one who had woken up in the world and then I found out there were millions of others out there just like me, it was very comforting and confirming for me... then I thought 'wow, I'm actually LATE... I've been asleep too long! lol. But I really don't think it has anything to do with being late or early... it's just a different timing for each person, because each person plays a different part in the ascension process. Your experience sounds like a very profound spirit-led awakening... the awakening moment is up to the Spirit and the person. We are just here to comfort and confirm each other's experiences.

[Leslie Lloyd]

PS. I was issued a new phone number in the year 2000 and the last four digits are 1111. HMMMMM.

Leslie Lloyd said:

Thank you for making you feel better. I have included an awesome you tube video I found.

Simone said:

Hi Leslie, I just wanted to let you know that I had a chance to look at the link you posted. I know exactly what you mean when you said 'They live in fear of God'. It's kinda sad. Once you've really experienced God as you seemed to have at your son's passing, you will never doubt again that God is Love. I think it is ironic that you say to be careful when you click on that link, because when I am on Christian forums and people post links to 'New Age' sites, they 'warn' you to enter with caution lol. I think people focus on what is already in their hearts and 'hone' in on words that support their perspectives. Brandy Rox's post is great. There are plenty of positive uplifting scriptures that many Christians totally overlook. I've had discussions on Christian forums and they are always 'attacking' others and condemning them for the slightest difference in belief, even amongst themselves. Even though not everyone here is in agreement as to what our understanding is of these multidimensional beings angels or ETs or whatever you want to call them are, or what will happen in 2012 and all these channellings, I have experienced a lot more love on this site and felt a freedom to be able to express myself without fear of condemnation. I can tell you, that as long as we don't have the freedom to express ourselves and share the Truth of ourselves as personal Witnesses to the Truth, we will never get to the bottom of it. First there has to be love and acceptance and understanding and freedom to discuss these topics... THEN we will begin to understand them. As far as the bible goes, I've read the whole thing several times over. Your description of your spiritual discovery and being accused of blasphemy is to be expected. Christians do not accept their divine nature and run around in circles ignoring the scriptures and rationalizing the ones away that specifically tell us of our divine nature. I tend to focus on Jesus' words in the Gospels, and not as much on the Old Testament or the other New Testament writings. I tend to view the other writings as Human beings' understanding of their own history and their interpretations of events and of who God is. The 'meat' of the bible is in Jesus' words. You can even narrow it down further to the Sermon on the Mount and Jesus' command to 'love one another as I have loved you." Jesus says, 'do you not know that you are gods?' and 'You are the temple of the Holy Spirit'. "Judge not, lest ye be judged". I could go on and on of how Christians totally 'miss the point'. It takes a lot of intense study to really understand the Bible and there are so many differing opinions, that it is nearly impossible to get a consensus among Christians on interpretations. We've had our bumps in the road here on this forum, but for the most part people are respecting of other's beliefs. Jesus' prayer to God was, /that we would all be united as one and He and the Father are one/ yet so few Christians seem to have no desire to fulfill that command and are setting such a poor example of what Jesus calls true Christians to be. They have no sense of respect or kindness it is such an embarrassment. People are so fed up with their behavior that they are called 'Christ tards' and then they 'rationalize' it away again by saying they are being 'persecuted' in Christ's name. As far as the Christian belief that one must believe in Jesus in order to be 'saved'... Christians totally ignore another scripture that says that those that call his name are NOT necessarily 'saved' and you don't necessarily have to 'know' Him, that 'whatever you do to the least of my children, you do it to me' (regardless if you know it is Him or not, your kindness and love and acts of mercy 'saves' you) so you do NOT have to be Christian to be 'saved' according to the bible itself. Besides all this, Jesus specifically says 'fear not' several times in the Bible, and to call God 'daddy' (Abba)... not to fear God. As far as the ETs possibly being 'demons', or negative entities, that too is discussed here. The Christian claim is that if you say the name of Jesus, they 'go away'... well good, that's easy enough, so if that is true, then what are they afraid of? I have no doubt in the sincerity of your heart and your seeking the truth on your spiritual journey, and have total confidence in you as you should have in yourself to make wise choices. Your family should feel the same way also, but yeah, it is not you it is their own fears. Anyway, I could go on and on with my fault finding about that link. There are people of all different beliefs and backgrounds on this ning, so I hope you feel at home and welcome. I also wish you peace and love and healing over the loss of your son.