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IDF intelligence soldiers refuse to serve: We won’t work against innocent Palestinians

IDF intelligence soldiers refuse to serve: We won’t work against innocent Palestinians

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Letter to the prime minister signed by 43 intelligence soldiers accuses military of immoral practices against Palestinian community.

Ed, Note MP-I used this image from the promotional poster of this movie. Because one of the Refusniks cited it as the inspiration for no longer following orders in intercepting signals intelligence. (Listening in on phone calls, reading over phone texts etc.)  I have also seen this movie and can understand how he might feel that way. After seeing it myself I consider it a great film.

It is sometimes way too discouraging reading how Israel is this inhuman monster to the  PalestiniansYet sometimes (not often enough though) a human voice does cry out from the occupying body of the Beast that is Israel.

                                                           Israel News 09/12/2014

Officers and soldiers in the IDF’s largest, and most elite intelligence unit, known as 8200, addressed a letter to the prime minister Friday, in which the 43 signatories said that they refuse to take part in action against Palestinians or, “to be tools to deepen the military regime in the occupied territories.”

It was unclear in the letter if the soldiers were refusing to follow specific orders they felt to be immoral, or if they intended not to appear for duty at all. Either action could potentially result in court martial and time in military jail.


Five of the intelligence soldiers who signed the letter to the prime minister.

Unit 8200 is the IDF’s central intelligence gathering body and the largest unity in the Israeli military. Soldiers in 8200 are responsible for collecting and intercepting signals intelligence (SIGINT) including telephone calls, texts, e-mails and faxes among various populations.

“The Palestinian population is subject to military rule, completely exposed to espionage and to being tracked by Israeli intelligence,” continued the letter. “Contrary to Israeli citizens or citizens of other countries, there’s no oversight on methods of intelligence or tracking and the use of intelligence information against the Palestinians, regardless if they are connected to violence or not.”

The reservists claimed in their letter that information that was gathered and stored harmed innocent Palestinians and was used in the political persecution and creation of division in Palestinian society by recruiting collaborators and turning parts of the population against themselves.

According to the soldiers, there are many cases in which IDF intelligence prevents just trials for defendants in military courts without ever showing them evidence from the prosecution.

“The intelligence allows for the continued control of millions of people and in-depth inspection that’s invasive to most areas of life. None of this allows for a normal life, fueling more violence and putting an end to the conflict further away.”

The letter finishes by calling on current and past intelligence soldiers, “to make your voices heard against these injustices and act to bring them to an end. We believe that even Israel’s future depends on it.”

The IDF spokesperson responded to the letter saying, “Unit 8200 has been collecting intelligence since its creation, allowing the IDF and other security forces to complete their missions and aid them every day in protecting Israeli civilians. The unit takes various actions in many different arenas, applying methods and rules aimed at fulfilling intelligence needs and intelligence needs only.”

“Those serving in the unit are trained after a rigorous identification process. Their training is unparalleled in the intelligence community in Israel and abroad while much of the content puts special emphasis on the areas of ethics, morality and work practices.”

“These are implemented in practice during the service of both soldiers and officers in the unit and they are constantly monitored by commanders of different ranks,” said the spokesperson. “Over the years, the last few in particular, the unit has received daily assessment, which often results in citations and security awards.”

  1. #1 by tonyfromindiana on 09/14/2014 - 9:34

    Good for them.
    Now, will they pass the true test and abstain from any of the ‘holidays’ of Judaism that celebrates the death of others??

  2. #2 by Howard on 09/14/2014 - 9:34

    MARTIN LUTHER, 16th century German religious reformer
    “But the Jews are so hardened that they listen to nothing; though overcome by testimonies they yield not an inch. It is a pernicious race, oppressing all men by their usury and rapine. If they give a prince or magistrate a thousand florins, they extort twenty thousand from the subjects in payment. We must ever keep on guard against them.”
    “They are the real liars and bloodhounds, who have not only perverted and falsified the entire Scriptures from beginning to end and without ceasing with their interpretations. And all of the anxious sighing, longing and hoping of their hearts is directed to the time when some day they would like to deal with us heathen as they dealt with the heathen in Persia at the time of Esther… On how they love the book of Esther, which so nicely agrees with their bloodthirsty, revengeful and murderous desire and hope.
    (1) The sun never did shine on a more bloodthirsty and revengeful people as they, who imagine to be the people of God, and who desire to and think they must murder and crush the heathen. And the foremost undertaking which they expect of their Messiah is that he should slay and murder the whole world with the sword. As they at first demonstrated against us Christians and would like to do now, if they only could; have also tried it often and have been repeatedly struck on their snouts… Their breath stinks for the gold and silver of the heathen; since no people under the sun always have been, still are, and always will remain more avaricious than they, as can be noticed in their cursed usury. They also find comfort with this: “When the Messiah comes, He shall take all the gold and silver in the world and distribute it among the Jews.
    (2) Thus, wherever they can direct Scripture to their insatiable avarice, they wickedly do so. Therefore know, my dear Christians, that next to the Devil; you have no more bitter, more poisonous, more vehement and enemy than a real Jew who earnestly desires to be a Jew. There may be some among them who believe what the cow or the goose believes. But all of them are surrounded with their blood and circumcision. In history, therefore, they are often accused of poisoning wells, stealing children and mutilating them; as in Trent, Weszensee and the like. Of course they deny this. Be it so or not, however, I know full well that the ready will is not lacking with them if they could only transform it into deeds, in secret or openly.
    (3) A person who does not know the Devil, might wonder why they are so at enmity with the Christians above all others; for which they have no reason, since we only do good to them.

  3. #3 by nooralhaqiqa on 09/14/2014 - 9:34

    Good start. Looks good on them. Only time will test their sincerity as Tony from Indiana puts it. May their movement spread….

  4. #4 by Isaac on 09/15/2014 - 9:34

    Thank o Howard for bringing this again. Its in the book “The Jews and their Lies” written by Doctor Martin Luther in the years 1442, founder of the Lutheran Church in Germany and translated the Bible from the Greek to German.

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