2009 approaches, a time of change…? - Saviors Of Earth2024-03-29T11:23:51Zhttps://saviorsofearth.ning.com/forum/topics/2009-approaches-a-time-of?commentId=2492330%3AComment%3A11440&feed=yes&xn_auth=noDefinitely,
probably 2 + 0 +…tag:saviorsofearth.ning.com,2008-11-30:2492330:Comment:275762008-11-30T23:17:35.385ZAndrePazhttps://saviorsofearth.ning.com/profile/AndrePaz
Definitely,<br />
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probably 2 + 0 + 0 + 9 = 11 means something
Definitely,<br />
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probably 2 + 0 + 0 + 9 = 11 means something Why do i feel that way, for S…tag:saviorsofearth.ning.com,2008-11-19:2492330:Comment:120712008-11-19T00:32:11.390ZAaronhttps://saviorsofearth.ning.com/profile/Aaron
Why do i feel that way, for Starters the Golden age already started according to the mayan Calender, second Thousands of people are waking up at an alarming rate, third it seems like alot of us are getting very creative as of lately. 4th You all must listen to David Wilcock the reincarnated Edgar Cayce which i follow alot, He does massive research as well has friends who are on the inside of the Illuminati. The Illuminati are falling because there is an internal war going on between two…
Why do i feel that way, for Starters the Golden age already started according to the mayan Calender, second Thousands of people are waking up at an alarming rate, third it seems like alot of us are getting very creative as of lately. 4th You all must listen to David Wilcock the reincarnated Edgar Cayce which i follow alot, He does massive research as well has friends who are on the inside of the Illuminati. The Illuminati are falling because there is an internal war going on between two factions of the illuminati, so that is why they are falling apart. 5th the light is growing so rapidly on this planet it is incredible. 6th there is already free energy and alternative fuels, and exotic technologies that exist today that would blow our minds, but have not been released to the Public as of yet. 7th Now we have a new President that will bring Disclosure to the table once he's in the Whitehouse. 8th With the economy it will not implode but transform to benefit the masses instead of a selected few, that is because we are gaining our power back each and every day, Also with Free Energy and alternative fuels will jump start the economy on a much better path.<br />
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Why do i believe First Contact in 2009, mainly because by then we will end most wars and there will be peace reigning around the world which will allow for First Contact on a massive scale.<br />
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As you all see, the reason there are prophesies of doom and gloom, ww3, nwo, destruction, meteors and many other end of the world prophesies. Well many civilization's has fallen 4 times that got to our technological level so you see how we thought how things would turn out if we chose a different path. We are on the 5th and final time, But this time our civilization is not going to fall but turn our selves around and choose a better path for our future. So the Illuminati will fall and are falling at an alarming rate, because they can't control us anymore.<br />
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<cite>Binary Warrior said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://saviorsofearth.ning.com/forum/topics/2009-approaches-a-time-of?id=2492330%3ATopic%3A10757&page=2#2492330Comment11327"><div>Hi Aaron,<br/> on what ground do you feel that Illuminati will fall? Let's not forget that in our "holographic universe" what we think is what we become. Well there are over 1.2 billion people awaiting for an Antichrist (and then the second coming of Christ), over 1 billion people awaiting for the Dajjal... and how many more waiting for Maytreya?
The so-called fall of the Illuminati is a planned event that will be the birth of the NWO where everyone will rejoice not knowing that the event was planned (no more no less like 911 was an option in the Plan for a New American Century... please read it) and that their man that seem have fought them IS their man...<br />
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I hope you are right but I think we need to stay alert on our toes...<br />
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<cite>Aaron said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://saviorsofearth.ning.com/forum/topics/2009-approaches-a-time-of#2492330Comment11260"><div>I believe 2009 will be the end of fossil fuels as we know it, Disclosure will happen, free energy and exotic technologies coming from disclosure will jump start the economy and we will be on Alcohol fuel and other alternative fuels. I also believe later in 2009, possibly in the fall, First Contact will be made on a global scale. Which will lead to our New History Lesson's and our understanding of what is to come for 2012, in deep deep detail to the masses. The fall of the Illuminati will be in January not February. They are almost finished now.</div>
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</blockquote> Andy (UK) said:ullan you are…tag:saviorsofearth.ning.com,2008-11-18:2492330:Comment:119962008-11-18T23:30:28.262ZUllanhttps://saviorsofearth.ning.com/profile/Ullan
<cite>Andy (UK) said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://saviorsofearth.ning.com/forum/topics/2009-approaches-a-time-of?id=2492330%3ATopic%3A10757&page=2#2492330Comment11929"><div>ullan<br></br> you are probably correct, but how will they be able to make 1st contact at a later date, wont they face the same scenario again?<br></br> how can they get around it?<br></br>
i know you dont have the answers im just curious as to how it is all going to unfold, i think it will in 2009, but its going to be a rocky…</div>
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<cite>Andy (UK) said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://saviorsofearth.ning.com/forum/topics/2009-approaches-a-time-of?id=2492330%3ATopic%3A10757&page=2#2492330Comment11929"><div>ullan<br/> you are probably correct, but how will they be able to make 1st contact at a later date, wont they face the same scenario again?<br/>
how can they get around it?<br/>
i know you dont have the answers im just curious as to how it is all going to unfold, i think it will in 2009, but its going to be a rocky road here 1st before they do.<br/>
if there is a financial collapse, there will be widespread panic buying, no food or fuel on sale etc as people hoard stocks..#<br/>
it will be scarey times ahead i think</div>
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Dear Andy.<br />
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I'm afraid I have no clear cut answer for you. In fact, I'm asking myself that same question, but all I can do is speculate. I'm of the opinion that lesson have been learned from the October 14 event, and new measures will be taken to prevent something like that from happening again. Exactly which measures I can't predict, but it seems to me a step in the right direction that they are no longer giving us a clear date. If their protagonists don't know what to expect or when, neither can the antagonists.<br />
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In a way, I believe that there will be a major event taking place next year, one that will divert the world's attention either elsewhere, or scatter the attention over multiple places so that an arrival, a 'first showing' becomes feasible. Let's not forget that they stand to gain and lose as much as we do through this, and frustrating as it might be for both sides, postponing or altering a mission is always preferable over abandoning or total mission failure. ullan
you are probably correc…tag:saviorsofearth.ning.com,2008-11-18:2492330:Comment:119292008-11-18T22:53:42.476ZAndy (UK)https://saviorsofearth.ning.com/profile/AndyUK
ullan<br />
you are probably correct, but how will they be able to make 1st contact at a later date, wont they face the same scenario again?<br />
how can they get around it?<br />
i know you dont have the answers im just curious as to how it is all going to unfold, i think it will in 2009, but its going to be a rocky road here 1st before they do.<br />
if there is a financial collapse, there will be widespread panic buying, no food or fuel on sale etc as people hoard stocks..#<br />
it will be scarey times ahead i think
ullan<br />
you are probably correct, but how will they be able to make 1st contact at a later date, wont they face the same scenario again?<br />
how can they get around it?<br />
i know you dont have the answers im just curious as to how it is all going to unfold, i think it will in 2009, but its going to be a rocky road here 1st before they do.<br />
if there is a financial collapse, there will be widespread panic buying, no food or fuel on sale etc as people hoard stocks..#<br />
it will be scarey times ahead i think More people should think like…tag:saviorsofearth.ning.com,2008-11-18:2492330:Comment:114402008-11-18T17:48:22.823ZDopeboyfreshhttps://saviorsofearth.ning.com/profile/Dopeboyfresh
More people should think like Binary Warrior. People are so easily manipulated.<br />
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Anything that takes away from you being an individual you should be wary of.<br />
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Here is a thought. All this channeling from the galactic federation, could it not just be from a source here on earth used as further mind control and manipulation?<br />
They message they preach seems to be a good one and I enjoy reading them but I remain wary of waiting for outside help. It could just as well be setting you up for a new…
More people should think like Binary Warrior. People are so easily manipulated.<br />
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Anything that takes away from you being an individual you should be wary of.<br />
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Here is a thought. All this channeling from the galactic federation, could it not just be from a source here on earth used as further mind control and manipulation?<br />
They message they preach seems to be a good one and I enjoy reading them but I remain wary of waiting for outside help. It could just as well be setting you up for a new faith, a new mind control. I may be wrong but I keep an open mind.<br />
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<cite>Binary Warrior said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://saviorsofearth.ning.com/forum/topics/2009-approaches-a-time-of?id=2492330%3ATopic%3A10757&page=2#2492330Comment11327"><div>Hi Aaron,<br/> <br/>
on what ground do you feel that Illuminati will fall? Let's not forget that in our "holographic universe" what we think is what we become. Well there are over 1.2 billion people awaiting for an Antichrist (and then the second coming of Christ), over 1 billion people awaiting for the Dajjal... and how many more waiting for Maytreya?<br/>
<br/>
The so-called fall of the Illuminati is a planned event that will be the birth of the NWO where everyone will rejoice not knowing that the event was planned (no more no less like 911 was an option in the Plan for a New American Century... please read it) and that their man that seem have fought them IS their man...<br/>
<br/>
I hope you are right but I think we need to stay alert on our toes...<br/>
<br/>
<cite>Aaron said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://saviorsofearth.ning.com/forum/topics/2009-approaches-a-time-of#2492330Comment11260"><div>I believe 2009 will be the end of fossil fuels as we know it, Disclosure will happen, free energy and exotic technologies coming from disclosure will jump start the economy and we will be on Alcohol fuel and other alternative fuels. I also believe later in 2009, possibly in the fall, First Contact will be made on a global scale. Which will lead to our New History Lesson's and our understanding of what is to come for 2012, in deep deep detail to the masses. The fall of the Illuminati will be in January not February. They are almost finished now.</div>
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the Illuminati hav…tag:saviorsofearth.ning.com,2008-11-18:2492330:Comment:113562008-11-18T17:09:08.697ZBinary Warriorhttps://saviorsofearth.ning.com/profile/BinaryWarrion
Hi Steve,<br />
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the Illuminati have been masters in manipulating events: how Rotschild made a fortune financing both the english and the french? Knowing that Napoleon was defeated, spreading rumors that he won instead, he capitalized from the generated chaos.<br />
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Even this current crisis in not different from the one in 1929: "someone" pulled the plug on some funds (Bush and his associates) putting banks in a condition to close shop (when no money circulates it is like the game of the singing…
Hi Steve,<br />
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the Illuminati have been masters in manipulating events: how Rotschild made a fortune financing both the english and the french? Knowing that Napoleon was defeated, spreading rumors that he won instead, he capitalized from the generated chaos.<br />
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Even this current crisis in not different from the one in 1929: "someone" pulled the plug on some funds (Bush and his associates) putting banks in a condition to close shop (when no money circulates it is like the game of the singing chairs...).<br />
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I have been thought to follow the money to see the culprit... please do the same: who is benefiting from it? Major banks. Those who "own" the Federal Reserve that are "helping" buying over smaller institutions for pennies over the dollar. They cannot close. They have the power of printing money!<br />
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Then, you will see... that "magically" when they have had "enough" for this round, the money will begin to flow once again... and they will have gained a better position.<br />
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This does not seem a fall to me...<br />
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About the book... you should read it. I am extremely busy (a family, kids, 2 businesses to run) but I found the time. I cannot afford not being informed. I read all I can and I mean it.<br />
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Is it paranoia? I know the chap who wrote that stuff. And believe me he has been threatened many times in over 40 years of research. The book was not a "research on UFO" but the result of his work helping abductees. He has used NLP with deep hypnosys on many cases (he studied over 1000).<br />
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Of course we are all entitled to believe what we want: but for the seek of humanity we should learn first then make a decision... otherwise we can be manipulated and we may not be aware of it.<br />
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I only ask (and nobody has answered me yet): WHY these guys go across the known Universe to come over here? To say "Hello"? Would WE do the same? We have sent probes... listening to signals out there... and if he had the certainty that there is life out there we would be very careful to send a mission as we would need to analyze the benefits (What's in it for us?) of such endeavor.<br />
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So, what's in it for these guys to come over here?<br />
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<cite>Steve said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://saviorsofearth.ning.com/forum/topics/2009-approaches-a-time-of#2492330Comment11148"><div>I think it highly likely given the nature of the incoming administration and the increased attention of such movements as the Million Fax on Washington. I certainly don't think there will be any 'fake' first contact. When it happens, I don't think there will be any room for doubt, and there won't be any more desire for secrecy because the 'cat will be out of the bag'.<br/> As to the rest, because I don't have time to sift through that website/book you mentioned (I have an extremely busy schedule), I won't comment on what you think will happen because your theory just doesn't resonate with me at all; off hand, with all due respect, it smacks of paranoia. <cite>Binary Warrior said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://saviorsofearth.ning.com/forum/topics/2009-approaches-a-time-of#2492330Comment10803"><div>Hi,<br/> <br/> Do you really believe there will be a full disclosure or a partial one (staging a fake first contact) just because there is way to much evidence out there? <br/></div>
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on what ground do…tag:saviorsofearth.ning.com,2008-11-18:2492330:Comment:113272008-11-18T17:01:37.759ZBinary Warriorhttps://saviorsofearth.ning.com/profile/BinaryWarrion
Hi Aaron,<br />
<br />
on what ground do you feel that Illuminati will fall? Let's not forget that in our "holographic universe" what we think is what we become. Well there are over 1.2 billion people awaiting for an Antichrist (and then the second coming of Christ), over 1 billion people awaiting for the Dajjal... and how many more waiting for Maytreya?<br />
<br />
The so-called fall of the Illuminati is a planned event that will be the birth of the NWO where everyone will rejoice not knowing that the event was…
Hi Aaron,<br />
<br />
on what ground do you feel that Illuminati will fall? Let's not forget that in our "holographic universe" what we think is what we become. Well there are over 1.2 billion people awaiting for an Antichrist (and then the second coming of Christ), over 1 billion people awaiting for the Dajjal... and how many more waiting for Maytreya?<br />
<br />
The so-called fall of the Illuminati is a planned event that will be the birth of the NWO where everyone will rejoice not knowing that the event was planned (no more no less like 911 was an option in the Plan for a New American Century... please read it) and that their man that seem have fought them IS their man...<br />
<br />
I hope you are right but I think we need to stay alert on our toes...<br />
<br />
<cite>Aaron said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://saviorsofearth.ning.com/forum/topics/2009-approaches-a-time-of#2492330Comment11260"><div>I believe 2009 will be the end of fossil fuels as we know it, Disclosure will happen, free energy and exotic technologies coming from disclosure will jump start the economy and we will be on Alcohol fuel and other alternative fuels. I also believe later in 2009, possibly in the fall, First Contact will be made on a global scale. Which will lead to our New History Lesson's and our understanding of what is to come for 2012, in deep deep detail to the masses. The fall of the Illuminati will be in January not February. They are almost finished now.</div>
</blockquote> I believe 2009 will be the en…tag:saviorsofearth.ning.com,2008-11-18:2492330:Comment:112602008-11-18T16:31:46.538ZAaronhttps://saviorsofearth.ning.com/profile/Aaron
I believe 2009 will be the end of fossil fuels as we know it, Disclosure will happen, free energy and exotic technologies coming from disclosure will jump start the economy and we will be on Alcohol fuel and other alternative fuels. I also believe later in 2009, possibly in the fall, First Contact will be made on a global scale. Which will lead to our New History Lesson's and our understanding of what is to come for 2012, in deep deep detail to the masses. The fall of the Illuminati will be in…
I believe 2009 will be the end of fossil fuels as we know it, Disclosure will happen, free energy and exotic technologies coming from disclosure will jump start the economy and we will be on Alcohol fuel and other alternative fuels. I also believe later in 2009, possibly in the fall, First Contact will be made on a global scale. Which will lead to our New History Lesson's and our understanding of what is to come for 2012, in deep deep detail to the masses. The fall of the Illuminati will be in January not February. They are almost finished now. Andy (UK) said:if they are tr…tag:saviorsofearth.ning.com,2008-11-18:2492330:Comment:112382008-11-18T16:17:30.594ZUllanhttps://saviorsofearth.ning.com/profile/Ullan
<cite>Andy (UK) said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://saviorsofearth.ning.com/forum/topics/2009-approaches-a-time-of#2492330Comment11186"><div>if they are true beings of light, surely they knew all this before they planned on coming?<br></br> they said every corner was covered, nothing would stop them!<br></br> NOTHING</div>
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It is indeed true that they claimed to have covered every eventuality before the 14th. And I think that, from their perspective, they had. My personal opinion on the…
<cite>Andy (UK) said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://saviorsofearth.ning.com/forum/topics/2009-approaches-a-time-of#2492330Comment11186"><div>if they are true beings of light, surely they knew all this before they planned on coming?<br/> they said every corner was covered, nothing would stop them!<br/>
NOTHING</div>
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It is indeed true that they claimed to have covered every eventuality before the 14th. And I think that, from their perspective, they had. My personal opinion on the matter, formed a month after the facts and inspired by the information and messages I could find in this time, is that they had anticipated everyone would be welcoming of them, except for a group which was likely to attack them directly. I don't think that they anticipated, neither did they have the necessary understanding to anticipate, a severe risk to those they were coming to meet.<br />
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Allow me to pour this all into an analogy. The best I can think of, which closely mirrors this situation is a hostage negotiation. Imagine yourself as a negotiator in a hostile standoff, and you are there to negotiate the release of one innocent man, standing between yourself and a hostage taker at the exact middle. Before going, you have put on a bullet resistant vest, had the streets closed off, all exits sealed and marksmen nearby to kill the hostage taker before he makes any sudden moves. But before you arrive there, he already has a gun pointed at the man's back, and he informs you that if you speak a single word, make a single movement or approach any closer, he will kill the man you are there to save. Is it likely he will die after doing that? Yes, it is entirely certain he will. But the hostage will also be dead. Is it likely the marksman will kill him if you make the move to do so? Entirely certain, but doing so requires making a move and the hostage would probably die. Can you call in an order to take down the hostage taker? Yes, you can, but doing so requires speaking, which means the hostage dies. What are you there to do? The entire point of your presence is /not/ the death of the hostage taker, but the survival of the hostage. Yes, you covered all bases. Yes, you took every precaution you possibly could. But in the end, your presence, your precautions and safeties, are threatening the life of the hostage.<br />
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What would you do? we wonttag:saviorsofearth.ning.com,2008-11-18:2492330:Comment:111942008-11-18T15:39:23.805ZAndy (UK)https://saviorsofearth.ning.com/profile/AndyUK
we wont
we wont