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Summary of August 27, 2008 Email Correspondence With Michael Horn

Billy Meier proponent Michael Horn runs the website www.theyfly.com. On August 27, 2008 he admitted to intentionally posting false and misleading articles on his website in order to deceive the public about the claims of Billy Meier. What follows is an edited summary of that admission. You can read the original series of August 27, 2008 emails here ( http://www.iigwest.com/investigations/meier/horn.letters.html ) , and our official press release here ( http://www.iigwest.com/investigations/meier/emails/20080919_Press_R... ) .

The circumstances that led to the admission of guilt began with this email sent by Michael Horn to Derek Bartholomaus of the Independent Investigations Group (IIG) and others.

From: Michael Horn
Date: August 27, 2008 12:22:32 PM PDT
To: Derek Bartholomaus, James Underdown, Philip Plait, Michael Shermer
Subject: Early Warning System

Yoo hoo, Derek!

Since I'm always gracious enough to give you plenty of warning of how thoroughly I'm going to reveal and skewer your incompetence, I hope that you didn't think that I had forgotten about yet another faux pas of yours, i.e. your claim that Marcel Vogel had used - are you ready - an electron scanning microscope to detect the presence of thulium in the metal sample!

And of course you're on record for all the world to see (which it is and they are, etc.) making that silly, false, statement.

I hope that you have informed your fellow pseudo-scientists of your planned transition into the field of satire and comedy, as it will eliminate the necessity for them to do a Vaughn Rees on you.

But let's keep you around just a little bit longer as your contribution to the success of my personal mission, with visitors to my site from 137 countries, is obviously worthy of acknowledgement...and further promotion.

You pal,

MH
Derek Bartholomaus then responded with this email:

From: Derek Bartholomaus
Date: August 27, 2008 12:55:49 PM PDT
To: Michael Horn
Cc: James Underdown, Philip Plait, Michael Shermer
Subject: Re: Early Warning System

Hello Michael.

I would be happy to tell you where I got that piece of information. It came from a website that you may be familiar with called www.theyfly.com. If you go to the "Evidence" pulldown menu on the front page and click on "Scientific Analysis of Evidence" you will get the attached PDF [article is called MeierEvidence.pdf].

On page 2 it states the following:
Marcel Vogel: Research chemist for IBM for twenty-two years, held thirty-two patents, and invented the magnetic disk coating memory system still used in IBM disk memories. A specialist in the conversion of energy inside crystals, Vogel probed crystalline structures with the most complete optical microscopic equipment available in the world - a system of scanning electron microscopes costing $250,000. Lieut. Col. Wendelle Stevens, USAF (Ret.): One of the original investigators in the Meier case. In 1979, he sent Vogel crystals and metal samples Meier had received from the Plejaren. Vogel reported, "When I touched the oxide with a stainless steel probe, red streaks appeared and the oxide coating disappeared. I just touched the metal like that, and it started to deoxidize and become a pure metal. I have never seen a phenomenon like that before." Of another metal sample containing nearly every element in the periodic table, Vogel stated, "Each pure element was bonded to each of the others, yet somehow retained its own identity." At 500 X magnification thulium was revealed. "Thulium exists only in minute amounts. It is exceedingly expensive, far beyond platinum, and rare to come by. Someone would have to have an extensive metallurgical knowledge even to be aware of a composition of this type", said Vogel. At 1600 X Vogel said, "A whole new world appears in the specimen. There are structures within structures - very unusual." At 2500 X he found that the sample was, "metal, but at the same time ... it is crystal!"

I agree that publicly stating such a thing for several years is silly and incompetent, but the incompetence is all yours Michael. And your incompetence has been on display to the world since, at least, 2004.

I look forward to your soon to be published press release announcing your incompetence. By the way, don't bother updating your website in order to hide your incompetence because I have already saved an archive of it in its current form.

Have a good day.

Derek Bartholomaus
Independent Investigations Group
Michael Horn then responded with the following:

From: Michael Horn
Date: August 27, 2008 1:17:42 PM PDT
To: Derek Bartholomaus
Cc: James Underdown, Philip Plait, Michael Shermer
Subject: Re: Early Warning System

Hi Derek,

Yes, thanks for taking the hook on that one too! Of course that's where you found it.

We left that one there but put the correct info, for all the world to see at

http://theyfly.com/PDF/Scientific%20Experts.PDF

This is where Michael Horn revealed that he intentionally posted false and misleading articles on his website in order to deceive the public about the claims of Billy Meier. Derek Bartholomaus then responded with the following email:

From: Derek Bartholomaus
Date: August 27, 2008 1:38:25 PM PDT
To: Michael Horn
Cc: James Underdown, Philip Plait, Michael Shermer
Subject: Re: Early Warning System

Hello Michael.

Thank you for admitting on the record that your website intentionally posts false, misleading, or fraudulent articles in order to try and support the claims of Billy Meier.

-Derek
After receiving this Michael Horn then replied with:

From: Michael Horn
Date: August 27, 2008 2:35:32 PM PDT
To: Derek Bartholomaus
Cc: James Underdown, Philip Plait, Michael Shermer
Subject: Re: Early Warning System

Not at all.

MH

And so it is with this final remark that Michael Horn confirms his guilt that he did knowingly, and intentionally, post false and misleading articles on his website in order to deceive the public about the UFO claims of Billy Meier. And just so that there is not any confusion as to what Michael Horn meant when he wrote "not at all" here is the etymology of that phrase from the All Experts ( http://en.allexperts.com/q/Etymology-Meaning-Words-1474/x-1.htm ) website: "The phrase 'not at all' is akin to similar shorthand phrases such as 'don't mention it', 'my pleasure', 'you're welcome', etc."

This is not the first time that proponents of Billy Meier have published false and misleading articles about the claims of Billy Meier, but it is the first time that one of them has publicly admitted to doing so.

Please visit the Independent Investigations Group website at
http://www.iigwest.com/investigations/meier/horn_email_summary.html
to read more about the claims of Billy Meier and learn what the reality of those claims actually are.

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'' Over the years the IIG has debated on the usefulness of continuing to post these emails from Michael Horn. At times he has used our posting of his emails as a form of advertising for him and his website. This is because he has been banned from most of the more popular UFO and Paranormal Internet message boards and forums due to his lack of civility ''.

And the discourtesy of Michael Horn we have allready see ...

http://saviorsofearth.ning.com/forum/topics/the-fake-accent-alex-co...

For those who are so uncritical, unthinking and so willing to drink any Kool-Aid that any con artist pours in your cup, I can only hope that you're not parents of young children and indoctrinating them in such foolish, and actually extremely dangerous, "non-judgmental" garbage.

There are things, and people, in this world that pose various kinds of dangers, which shouldn't be underestimated. When they are exposed, one good thing that can occur is that it flushes out the weak-minded who will rush to offer their righteous defenses in the name of non-judgment, or even worse as expressed above as "lies don't matter".

In the case of this shameless fraud, if your own due diligence - let alone the innate thinking and discernment skills that hopefully you as adults have developed - doesn't help you to see through this psychopath then you are certainly, at the very least, a danger to yourself.
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Namaste to all the true Saviors of Earth
See here how Michael Horn handles truth ...

The Misquotes of Michael Horn http://www.iigwest.com/investigations/meier/misquotes_of_michael_ho...
It is already sure 8 hours since I placed this article, but not Lea and certainly no Michael Horn answering ...
Why oh why ???
The purpose of SOE is to inform people of developments pertinent to First Contact, I assume this is the case anyway. Billy Meier took his photo's etc thirty years ago and frankly I feel this length of time consigns the whole thing to an interesting history but not one that is especially important today. Real or faked, it does'nt really matter.
Also, I hope our membership will prevent SOE becoming an irrelevant cul de sac of silly UFO factions and politics, let them sell their wares elsewhere.

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