Karma - Saviors Of Earth2024-03-29T15:59:55Zhttps://saviorsofearth.ning.com/forum/topics/karma-1?feed=yes&xn_auth=noTo think i've spent all this…tag:saviorsofearth.ning.com,2009-07-30:2492330:Comment:1971352009-07-30T07:17:04.438ZIsaachttps://saviorsofearth.ning.com/profile/IsaacPalmer
To think i've spent all this time thinking and being afraid. what a waste of friggin' time :sigh:<br />
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thats actually how i feel btw.
To think i've spent all this time thinking and being afraid. what a waste of friggin' time :sigh:<br />
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thats actually how i feel btw. Sadly, the idea behind its in…tag:saviorsofearth.ning.com,2009-07-27:2492330:Comment:1966002009-07-27T20:54:06.013ZUllanhttps://saviorsofearth.ning.com/profile/Ullan
Sadly, the idea behind its inception may have been noble and well thought out, what it couldn't foresee is the centuries of perversion of the idea, twisting it into a tool for those questing for personal power.<br />
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Again, in ideal circumstances such a thing could not occur, as any well adjusted human being can see that twisting mechanism to minimize suffering into something that increases suffering but as a byproduct also makes one a powerful being in this lifetime is, for lack of a better term,…
Sadly, the idea behind its inception may have been noble and well thought out, what it couldn't foresee is the centuries of perversion of the idea, twisting it into a tool for those questing for personal power.<br />
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Again, in ideal circumstances such a thing could not occur, as any well adjusted human being can see that twisting mechanism to minimize suffering into something that increases suffering but as a byproduct also makes one a powerful being in this lifetime is, for lack of a better term, inexcusable. This brings us round circle to the actual idea of karma and the reasoning behind it.<br />
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While the initial idea and philosophy is sound, it stands or falls with the integrity of those who are tasked with safeguarding it. Too easily have these guardians fallen to the lure of the temporary...<br />
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<cite>Will said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://saviorsofearth.ning.com/forum/topics/karma-1#2492330Comment196306"><div>It's supposed to be there to minimize suffering. I observe the opposite to be true.</div>
</blockquote> It's supposed to be there to…tag:saviorsofearth.ning.com,2009-07-27:2492330:Comment:1963062009-07-27T01:22:37.926ZWillhttps://saviorsofearth.ning.com/profile/Will
It's supposed to be there to minimize suffering. I observe the opposite to be true.
It's supposed to be there to minimize suffering. I observe the opposite to be true. Karma is a tricky one. As you…tag:saviorsofearth.ning.com,2009-07-26:2492330:Comment:1962692009-07-26T23:27:29.956ZUllanhttps://saviorsofearth.ning.com/profile/Ullan
Karma is a tricky one. As you rightly point out, it is indelibly connected with other thoughts and philosophies, and basically boils down to one simple thought:<br />
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Minimize suffering.<br />
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Many early and dominant religions, and I've made this point before, were better known and better adhered to than early law and civilization. It was one thing to make someone fear for their lives if they stole a loaf of bread, but quite another to make them fear for their /soul/ for doing the same. One is a very…
Karma is a tricky one. As you rightly point out, it is indelibly connected with other thoughts and philosophies, and basically boils down to one simple thought:<br />
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Minimize suffering.<br />
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Many early and dominant religions, and I've made this point before, were better known and better adhered to than early law and civilization. It was one thing to make someone fear for their lives if they stole a loaf of bread, but quite another to make them fear for their /soul/ for doing the same. One is a very fatal but temporary punishment which one might escape if quick or clever enough, where the latter is an inevitable and permanent consequence.<br />
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It's hard to explain the reasoning behind these many concepts without falling into the trap of Morality vs. Legality, but in my opinion it can all be boiled down to my earlier statement: to minimize the suffering.<br />
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All of this implies, as it always has, one taking responsibility for ones own actions. A well adjusted human being with a well developed sense of empathy doesn't need this sort of prompting. Instinctively, one should be able to know what is a correct way to behave. Mind you that I do not say there is a 'right' or a 'wrong' way to live or behave. That said, anyone should be able to feel that making another suffer (regardless of karma, law, consequence, sin or promise of eternal damnation) is not the correct way to act.<br />
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I really shouldn't be saying anything you didn't already know or hadn't yet realized, as this is the very basic foundation of successful co-existence.<br />
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So what is my point here?<br />
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Simple.<br />
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Karma, Law, Sin... they are all there to facilitate one thing: to let all of us live together without anyone making another suffer. In a perfect world, nobody would need any prompting or reminding of this, and these concepts wouldn't be necessary. So why do these concepts still exist today?<br />
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Because sadly this isn't a perfect world... yet.