First day of the beginning of my new life. My goodbye. (Admins please do NOT delete) - Saviors Of Earth2024-03-28T19:39:44Zhttps://saviorsofearth.ning.com/forum/topics/first-day-of-the-beginning-of?commentId=2492330%3AComment%3A119529&feed=yes&xn_auth=noplz dont leave HR!!tag:saviorsofearth.ning.com,2009-02-15:2492330:Comment:1206182009-02-15T16:13:28.840ZBishophttps://saviorsofearth.ning.com/profile/Bishop
plz dont leave HR!!
plz dont leave HR!! Yeah, I wasn't making any sta…tag:saviorsofearth.ning.com,2009-02-15:2492330:Comment:1203852009-02-15T07:18:43.080ZBlisseonhttps://saviorsofearth.ning.com/profile/Blisseon
Yeah, I wasn't making any statements about who was right or wrong, who said what, or whose feelings got hurt. I was talking about how these things should be handled. These things can all be handled in such a way as to resolve the problems while preserving as much privacy, dignity and comfort for all involved. Writing public posts about it is not the way to do it. These types of things are best handled and moderated in private. When I have a problem with someone I talk to them privately, person…
Yeah, I wasn't making any statements about who was right or wrong, who said what, or whose feelings got hurt. I was talking about how these things should be handled. These things can all be handled in such a way as to resolve the problems while preserving as much privacy, dignity and comfort for all involved. Writing public posts about it is not the way to do it. These types of things are best handled and moderated in private. When I have a problem with someone I talk to them privately, person to person. If this doesn't work then I get a mediator involved if possible. There are moderators available in this online community for just such as this.<br />
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I am not making judgments here about who did what and who is to blame. I am talking about the manner in which it is being handled, which I feel is not being handled professionally and respectfully.<br />
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Ok, so, I will now make an appeal. Please if we have something personal, a direct personal complaint (I am not talking about just a disagreement of some sort with another member) can we please take it to a moderator? The way it works is that a moderator takes up the problem and helps you solve it. Putting personal jabs out in the public posts is not constructive. It causes further strife and bad feelings. It resolves nothing. Putting personal jabs in public posts is like spreading the problem instead of solving the problem. To solve a problem you must contain it and "make it smaller" by beginning to solve it amongst the people involved. When you publish something about someone else of a personal nature (so as to make a personal jab at that person publicly) by the very nature of everyone reading this and stewing about it, you "make it bigger" and the whole thing possibly (and actually will very likely) be blown totally out of proportion.<br />
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What does a Diplomat do? He goes to talk to two or more parties, usually of opposing views. When this Diplomat goes in to facilitate communication between these members, do you think that the Diplomat would say, "Well, now! Let's see who is to blame here!" and start pointing fingers all over the place? What would happen to the talks if he did that? Do you think this Diplomat would accomplish anything positive? I don't think so. I think he might just start a war doing this.<br />
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For years my father was a counselor. He counseled families, individuals and couples. I have learned some things from my dad about handling problems. You have to adopt an attitude of "rising above", of making problems smaller instead of bigger. The smaller the problems get, the easier it is to solve them. If you fester them and spread them out all over the place and make them bigger, they become much harder to solve. Simple is always better. This is what my dad would help people do: make their "problems" simple enough for them to solve. I believe in following this logic every day. I like to simplify instead of complicate.<br />
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All I am saying is that I am very uncomfortable when I come and read stuff where people are slamming each other. I know there are others besides me that are uncomfortable with it (the personal attacks).<br />
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This is how I live my life. I extend respect and expect some respect in return. I don't think that is too much to ask, is it?<br />
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Quote from QLoveNLight:<br />
"With that said Blisseon, Brad did create this site and as such, is seen as a creator by the hundreds who follow him. And if you can't see that as a fact then I implore you to look at the hundreds of posts on SoE of individuals defending him even when the facts clearly show that there can't be a defense to what has been said or done. Furthermore, when you have people following you, whether you want them too or not, and then continue to "teach" the knowledge in which you have gained, does't that make you a role-model of sorts? Just as the student often times looks up to his teacher or mentor? And despite the fact that he states he is not a leader or someone to be followed, he clearly continues to "teach" his knowledge and philosophies. Well, isn't he contradicting himself by saying one thing but then doing another?? Or is this a case of "do as I say, not as I do"? And why wouldn't Brad want to back off from being an admin now that he has tarnished his own reputation on his own site? By staying an admin, in terms of banning and deleting posts, would only serve to further tarnish his self-made image. Why would someone of his persuasion do such a thing?? Well, he wouldn't because that wouldn't serve his purpose, whatever that may be and no, I won't speculate on what I think that may be.<br />
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But let's not take our eyes off the ball people. So, let me once again state - the bottom line is that HR was in fact wronged by Brad and that was a proven fact. You speak of "publicly airing dirty laundry" but HR didn't air it, Brad aired it himself. If you don't want it to be in a public forum then don't put it there, plain and simple. And yes, we do make mistakes and as I said in my original post....<br />
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"No one is perfect and we are all subjected to being overcome by darkness from time to time, that is what makes us human after all. But, we must move forward past all of this and heal the wounds that these events have caused. Forgive Brad for any wrongs you feel he may have perpetrated because he is your brother."<br />
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And I think that at this point I am beating a dead horse so I'll leave it at that....<br />
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With love and light,<br />
~Quinn" Greetings Rebel Saint.
Those…tag:saviorsofearth.ning.com,2009-02-15:2492330:Comment:1201842009-02-15T01:02:12.754ZUllanhttps://saviorsofearth.ning.com/profile/Ullan
Greetings Rebel Saint.<br />
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Those are indeed the salient points of my argument. I thank you for clarifying them.<br />
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My posts have not been in defense of anyone but a general call for a return to serenity. Indeed, you appear to have fully grasped the meaning of the post, if not the intent.<br />
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Still, I remain hopeful.<br />
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<cite>Rebel Saint said:…</cite>
Greetings Rebel Saint.<br />
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Those are indeed the salient points of my argument. I thank you for clarifying them.<br />
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My posts have not been in defense of anyone but a general call for a return to serenity. Indeed, you appear to have fully grasped the meaning of the post, if not the intent.<br />
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Still, I remain hopeful.<br />
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<cite>Rebel Saint said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://saviorsofearth.ning.com/forum/topics/first-day-of-the-beginning-of?id=2492330%3ATopic%3A118987&page=3#2492330Comment120146"><div>Ullan, while I respect your wisdom, I have to disagree with a few things.<br/> <br/>
1. "Everyone here is quite capable of working out for themselves what is going on"<br/>
No, unfortunately I think most people here have their blinders on. If they really were capable of working it out there would be a general rejection of the root cause of this strife.<br/>
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2. "sit down together, work it out like adults"<br/>
A moot point when the chief party involved has no intention of acting like one. Any attempts to bring it about are censored and labeled as attacks.<br/>
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If certain people were capable of humility and self reflection, this whole mess would have been passed by now.<br/>
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<cite>Ullan said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://saviorsofearth.ning.com/forum/topics/first-day-of-the-beginning-of?id=2492330%3ATopic%3A118987&page=2#2492330Comment119529"><div>And we are, once more, bathed in drama and see lines drawn in the sand.<br/> <br/> No more.<br/>
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Everyone here is quite capable of working out for themselves what is going on. The endless reposting of logs, blogs, entries and running commentaries is not adding anything of value. Yes, you may exercise your right to free speech, but please consider if doing so will actually resolve a situation, or simply add another side to the conflict.<br/>
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In short, these things must stop.<br/>
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For all involved in this conflict: rather than post grand statements, faits accomplis, and melodramatic posts, sit down together, work it out like adults. If you choose to go your separate ways, do so in dignity and silence. If you must post a reason for leaving, for the sake of cohesion please mention 'personal reasons' and leave it at that. Those who want to know because they must know, will be able to get in touch with you.<br/>
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Those who feel the need to find a side in every conflict: cease the endless rehashing of the same information. This is, in fact, starting to give me a horrible migraine. If you have an opinion on a matter, fantastic. If you feel like adding that opinion to a running thread, please think first if it is going to either change anything, or create a new perspective. Semantics, commentaries, flames, inciting posts and suchlike only serve to prolong unnecessary debates. In cases such as this, there are no 'winners'. All I can see in this thread are a lot of broken hearts.<br/>
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In short, this is me climbing the barricades for an end to endless, pointless and frustrating infighting, even if you don't want to call it that (see semantics above). At all times, in all things, try to preserve the sanctity of privacy, the serenity of debate, and the dignity of this community and yourself.<br/>
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And while you are reading this, try to imagine how much frustration it must have taken to get me to write this. Consider that a very bad sign.</div>
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</blockquote> Hi Puff,
Please stay and con…tag:saviorsofearth.ning.com,2009-02-14:2492330:Comment:1200812009-02-14T21:33:50.673ZPatrishhttps://saviorsofearth.ning.com/profile/Patrish
Hi Puff,<br />
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Please stay and continue to post,<br />
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much love<br />
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Patrish xxxxxxx
Hi Puff,<br />
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Please stay and continue to post,<br />
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much love<br />
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Patrish xxxxxxx Yeah but...
What about the f…tag:saviorsofearth.ning.com,2009-02-14:2492330:Comment:1199102009-02-14T17:42:13.233ZBlisseonhttps://saviorsofearth.ning.com/profile/Blisseon
Yeah but...<br />
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What about the fact that we don't really have a "leader?" Last I checked, Brad was the "creator" of SoE, but I always thought he wasn't "leading" it, as though we were some sort of congregation or something.<br />
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Seems to me that SoE is exactly what we make it to be. People, we are co-creating this community together. Let's do it consciously. Let's be conscious co-creators.<br />
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Last I heard, Brad was classified as "creator" of SoE, meaning that he formed this Ning community at it's…
Yeah but...<br />
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What about the fact that we don't really have a "leader?" Last I checked, Brad was the "creator" of SoE, but I always thought he wasn't "leading" it, as though we were some sort of congregation or something.<br />
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Seems to me that SoE is exactly what we make it to be. People, we are co-creating this community together. Let's do it consciously. Let's be conscious co-creators.<br />
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Last I heard, Brad was classified as "creator" of SoE, meaning that he formed this Ning community at it's conception. A "creator", I'm assuming, admin rights. However, he appears to be backing off and asking for a group of "admin/moderators" to be doing the work of administration and moderation for this site, so as to distance himself from that aspect. This is good because, given the size of our community now, responsibility is best delegated in order for things to run smoother.<br />
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One more thing: don't get shocked when people are imperfect or when they make mistakes. Mistakes don't make us failures - our job is to work through them. Mistakes do not dictate to us what or who we are. The only time a mistake causes failure is when you remain there and do not move past it.<br />
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Generally speaking, no one needs to leave this community. The only way I can see that someone might choose to leave is when their goals are so misaligned with the collective goals of this community that nothing can be collaborated between us. However, that is a personal judgment call for the individual. (Barring, of course, when someone is banned because of a violation of the community rules.) HR, this is up to you to determine. I will defer to you on this and I know you will make the right decision for yourself. Although, I will say, I would hate to see you leave.<br />
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As for things that happened or are being said about Brad (and others), I would like to ask: is there ever a time when anyone here has ever truly forced anything on anyone? Besides the ones who have been banned after violating the community rules - I am referring to the actual participating members, the ones who are respectful of this community. I see people expressing themselves and sharing, but I can say of a surety that I have never known of a time when one of us reached through someone's computer screen or marched over to their house and made them do something. I mean, let's get this straight. Any "forcing" or "coercion" has been perceived as such.<br />
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Again, I will restate: We should have a rule that forbids any negative speak about other members in open forum/chat/ventrilo. If we have a contention with any member, this should be immediately taken to an admin/moderator, where it then will be addressed immediately. These things should be resolved discretely, not publicly. By publicly airing of our "dirty laundry" we are actively unravelling the fabric of this community. Publicly speaking ill or otherwise complaining or being negative of anyone in this community hurts everyone. Yes, everyone.<br />
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Thank you for listening.<br />
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love to all,<br />
Blisseon<br />
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<cite>QLoveNLight said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://saviorsofearth.ning.com/forum/topics/first-day-of-the-beginning-of?page=3&commentId=2492330%3AComment%3A119846&x=1#2492330Comment119846"><div>Ullan,<br/> I have great respect for your posts and I find most of your comments insightful and often times very deep and meaningful. However, I must say that I disagree with what you have said in your comment below and the one prior to this one (I won't bother citing the first one in the interest of keeping this as short as possible).
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I think the overall purpose of this discussion was to 1), tell everyone that HR intends to leave and 2), to let everyone know why HR is leaving, perhaps in the hopes of exposing certain truths that may help others to see what Brad has unfortunately become. And why are such things so important that they must be discussed here? Because Brad, whether he openly accepts it or not, is seen as a leader on this site by the individuals here. And these individuals are easily persuaded by his words and actions....words and actions that are less than that in which this site preaches about.<br />
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I have repeatedly stated that Brad should be more responsible with what he says and does because people look up to him as a role model/leader. But, given the facts that have been shown here and in other various places, it would seem as if Brad has no concern for his fellow lightworkers. Instead, he worries about his own self-made image and reputation, first and foremost. Yet many of the individuals on this site would most likely follow him into a volcano without ever questioning his motives.<br />
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Yes, I agree that we shouldn't be judgemental of one and other and that each of us has our own truth. I believe that we should love one and other regardless of who they are, whether they are more darkly centered or more lightly centered. However, I also believe that when you are in a position to be looked up to and lead, you should be selfless and only lead to the cause in which you believe in, plain and simple.<br />
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HR had every right to post what he felt as we all have this right. And everyone who has put in their two cents have a right to do so because that's the whole idea behind "Discussions." And this thread is, of course, a discussion and whomever wishes to add to the discussion should be able to.<br />
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Ullan, you may not like the content of these types of posts and you may feel that they are pointless and dark in nature but that doesn't mean they shouldn't be discussed. We, as human beings, cannot hold onto the darkness within ourselves. We must release that darkness for it serves no purpose to us as you have so eloquently put in this post and previous ones. And in this case, we are doing just that....we are releasing the darkness within ourselves in a discussion that each of us (who have posted here) have chosen to do of our own free will - including you Ullan.<br />
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The bottom line here is that HR is very hurt by the recent events that have taken place. He looked up to Brad as do many on this site and Brad let him down. I too am disappointed in Brad's actions but I still love Brad regardless of what he has done. No one is perfect and we are all subjected to being overcome by darkness from time to time, that is what makes us human after all. But, we must move forward past all of this and heal the wounds that these events have caused. Forgive Brad for any wrongs you feel he may have perpetrated because he is your brother.<br />
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Remember on this Valentine's Day that we must love one and other, unconditionally as we move closer and closer to our ascension. The love we have in our hearts and the love we send out into the world is what will help us raise the collective consciousness and mother Earth. The Golden Age is awaiting our arrival....with love and light!<br />
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~Quinn<br />
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<cite>Ullan said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://saviorsofearth.ning.com/forum/topics/first-day-of-the-beginning-of?id=2492330%3ATopic%3A118987&page=3#2492330Comment119795"><div>Dear SOSoe,<br/><br/>You have indeed been quite restrained and respectful on this site. And it is not up to anyone here to tell you what to believe, or what you can or cannot create elsewhere.<br/><br/>My post was therefore not aimed at you. Nor at anyone else. It was a general call for dignity and serenity, things which have been absent here for a while. We have descended into filibustering and querrelmania.<br/><br/>To put it quite bluntly: if you (general you, not indicative) cannot see why something crosses a line, there is nothing further I can do for you.<br/><br/>It seems we won't have to worry about watchlists, infiltrators or any sort of attack on the members to tear this community apart; we appear to be quite capable of doing that ourselves.</div>
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</blockquote> Dear SOSoe,
You have indeed…tag:saviorsofearth.ning.com,2009-02-14:2492330:Comment:1197952009-02-14T14:53:10.706ZUllanhttps://saviorsofearth.ning.com/profile/Ullan
Dear SOSoe,<br />
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You have indeed been quite restrained and respectful on this site. And it is not up to anyone here to tell you what to believe, or what you can or cannot create elsewhere.<br />
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My post was therefore not aimed at you. Nor at anyone else. It was a general call for dignity and serenity, things which have been absent here for a while. We have descended into filibustering and querrelmania.<br />
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To put it quite bluntly: if you (general you, not indicative) cannot see why something crosses a…
Dear SOSoe,<br />
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You have indeed been quite restrained and respectful on this site. And it is not up to anyone here to tell you what to believe, or what you can or cannot create elsewhere.<br />
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My post was therefore not aimed at you. Nor at anyone else. It was a general call for dignity and serenity, things which have been absent here for a while. We have descended into filibustering and querrelmania.<br />
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To put it quite bluntly: if you (general you, not indicative) cannot see why something crosses a line, there is nothing further I can do for you.<br />
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It seems we won't have to worry about watchlists, infiltrators or any sort of attack on the members to tear this community apart; we appear to be quite capable of doing that ourselves. Ullan, I fully understand thi…tag:saviorsofearth.ning.com,2009-02-14:2492330:Comment:1195972009-02-14T08:00:34.472ZBlisseonhttps://saviorsofearth.ning.com/profile/Blisseon
Ullan, I fully understand this frustration, as I share it with you.<br />
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I firmly believe this community needs a rule that will forbid any negative speak against a fellow member. If anyone has a problem it needs to be stated privately to a moderator/admin, and should be helped to resolve any said problems discretely. Any time a member complains/bickers/bashes/defames another member, it causes serious problems in this community. It should not be allowed to happen - for the sanity and dignity of…
Ullan, I fully understand this frustration, as I share it with you.<br />
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I firmly believe this community needs a rule that will forbid any negative speak against a fellow member. If anyone has a problem it needs to be stated privately to a moderator/admin, and should be helped to resolve any said problems discretely. Any time a member complains/bickers/bashes/defames another member, it causes serious problems in this community. It should not be allowed to happen - for the sanity and dignity of everyone.<br />
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<cite>Dean said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://saviorsofearth.ning.com/forum/topics/first-day-of-the-beginning-of?page=2&commentId=2492330%3AComment%3A119568&x=1#2492330Comment119568"><div>A-men.<br/> <br/>
<cite>Ullan said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://saviorsofearth.ning.com/forum/topics/first-day-of-the-beginning-of?id=2492330%3ATopic%3A118987&page=2#2492330Comment119529"><div>And we are, once more, bathed in drama and see lines drawn in the sand.<br/> <br/> No more.<br/>
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Everyone here is quite capable of working out for themselves what is going on. The endless reposting of logs, blogs, entries and running commentaries is not adding anything of value. Yes, you may exercise your right to free speech, but please consider if doing so will actually resolve a situation, or simply add another side to the conflict.<br/>
<br/>
In short, these things must stop.<br/>
<br/>
For all involved in this conflict: rather than post grand statements, faits accomplis, and melodramatic posts, sit down together, work it out like adults. If you choose to go your separate ways, do so in dignity and silence. If you must post a reason for leaving, for the sake of cohesion please mention 'personal reasons' and leave it at that. Those who want to know because they must know, will be able to get in touch with you.<br/>
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Those who feel the need to find a side in every conflict: cease the endless rehashing of the same information. This is, in fact, starting to give me a horrible migraine. If you have an opinion on a matter, fantastic. If you feel like adding that opinion to a running thread, please think first if it is going to either change anything, or create a new perspective. Semantics, commentaries, flames, inciting posts and suchlike only serve to prolong unnecessary debates. In cases such as this, there are no 'winners'. All I can see in this thread are a lot of broken hearts.<br/>
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In short, this is me climbing the barricades for an end to endless, pointless and frustrating infighting, even if you don't want to call it that (see semantics above). At all times, in all things, try to preserve the sanctity of privacy, the serenity of debate, and the dignity of this community and yourself.<br/>
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And while you are reading this, try to imagine how much frustration it must have taken to get me to write this. Consider that a very bad sign.</div>
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</blockquote> A-men.
Ullan said:And we are…tag:saviorsofearth.ning.com,2009-02-14:2492330:Comment:1195682009-02-14T06:33:52.974ZDeanhttps://saviorsofearth.ning.com/profile/Dean
A-men.<br />
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<cite>Ullan said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://saviorsofearth.ning.com/forum/topics/first-day-of-the-beginning-of?id=2492330%3ATopic%3A118987&page=2#2492330Comment119529"><div>And we are, once more, bathed in drama and see lines drawn in the sand.<br></br> <br></br> No more.<br></br>
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Everyone here is quite capable of working out for themselves what is going on. The endless reposting of logs, blogs, entries and running commentaries is not adding anything of value. Yes, you may exercise…</div>
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A-men.<br />
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<cite>Ullan said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://saviorsofearth.ning.com/forum/topics/first-day-of-the-beginning-of?id=2492330%3ATopic%3A118987&page=2#2492330Comment119529"><div>And we are, once more, bathed in drama and see lines drawn in the sand.<br/> <br/>
No more.<br/>
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Everyone here is quite capable of working out for themselves what is going on. The endless reposting of logs, blogs, entries and running commentaries is not adding anything of value. Yes, you may exercise your right to free speech, but please consider if doing so will actually resolve a situation, or simply add another side to the conflict.<br/>
<br/>
In short, these things must stop.<br/>
<br/>
For all involved in this conflict: rather than post grand statements, faits accomplis, and melodramatic posts, sit down together, work it out like adults. If you choose to go your separate ways, do so in dignity and silence. If you must post a reason for leaving, for the sake of cohesion please mention 'personal reasons' and leave it at that. Those who want to know because they must know, will be able to get in touch with you.<br/>
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Those who feel the need to find a side in every conflict: cease the endless rehashing of the same information. This is, in fact, starting to give me a horrible migraine. If you have an opinion on a matter, fantastic. If you feel like adding that opinion to a running thread, please think first if it is going to either change anything, or create a new perspective. Semantics, commentaries, flames, inciting posts and suchlike only serve to prolong unnecessary debates. In cases such as this, there are no 'winners'. All I can see in this thread are a lot of broken hearts.<br/>
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In short, this is me climbing the barricades for an end to endless, pointless and frustrating infighting, even if you don't want to call it that (see semantics above). At all times, in all things, try to preserve the sanctity of privacy, the serenity of debate, and the dignity of this community and yourself.<br/>
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And while you are reading this, try to imagine how much frustration it must have taken to get me to write this. Consider that a very bad sign.</div>
</blockquote> Okay... man.
Brad, I have ch…tag:saviorsofearth.ning.com,2009-02-14:2492330:Comment:1195632009-02-14T06:33:01.849ZDeanhttps://saviorsofearth.ning.com/profile/Dean
Okay... man.<br />
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Brad, I have chosen not to visit this site. I will not Judge SOSoe, he can have his point of view. That is his. It is not mine, and probably not the POV of many members here.<br />
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Brad, you and many here are angry. Which is also fine.<br />
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SOSoe. Perhaps may I suggest that you agree to disagree with the POV of Saviors. And you go about YOUR truth without stirring up a hornet nest here.<br />
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You can operate in your truth and we and whoever wants to join EITHER are free to do what ever they…
Okay... man.<br />
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Brad, I have chosen not to visit this site. I will not Judge SOSoe, he can have his point of view. That is his. It is not mine, and probably not the POV of many members here.<br />
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Brad, you and many here are angry. Which is also fine.<br />
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SOSoe. Perhaps may I suggest that you agree to disagree with the POV of Saviors. And you go about YOUR truth without stirring up a hornet nest here.<br />
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You can operate in your truth and we and whoever wants to join EITHER are free to do what ever they feel is right to do.<br />
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I am getting tired of logging on here and seeing all this.<br />
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HR. be well my friend. Sad to see you go.<br />
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My 2 cents.<br />
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D<br />
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<cite>Re-Frect-Sharam said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://saviorsofearth.ning.com/forum/topics/first-day-of-the-beginning-of?id=2492330%3ATopic%3A118987&page=2#2492330Comment119535"><div>hey HR i dont think you should be leaving over such none-sense.<br/> and brad i dont think you should command other people to do your chores.</div>
</blockquote> please take care of your heal…tag:saviorsofearth.ning.com,2009-02-14:2492330:Comment:1195382009-02-14T05:12:50.152ZRLhttps://saviorsofearth.ning.com/profile/RebLing
please take care of your health!
please take care of your health!