A Distressed Alex Collier Finally Gives Up the Facade - Saviors Of Earth2024-03-29T06:26:37Zhttps://saviorsofearth.ning.com/forum/topics/a-distressed-alex-collier?id=2492330%3ATopic%3A192119&feed=yes&xn_auth=noThank you Lea Anna Cooper and…tag:saviorsofearth.ning.com,2009-07-18:2492330:Comment:1928042009-07-18T10:47:36.326ZJurehttps://saviorsofearth.ning.com/profile/Jure
Thank you Lea Anna Cooper and Simone for your time and view on 2012 and ascension :) im glad that i ask both of u about this stuff. U two have opened my eye's a little bit more too all of this soo i thank you very much :) and too u too michael for sharing info. Love love by Jure :) @-->--
Thank you Lea Anna Cooper and Simone for your time and view on 2012 and ascension :) im glad that i ask both of u about this stuff. U two have opened my eye's a little bit more too all of this soo i thank you very much :) and too u too michael for sharing info. Love love by Jure :) @-->-- Thank you, Clauss. It's appre…tag:saviorsofearth.ning.com,2009-07-18:2492330:Comment:1927502009-07-18T06:18:19.369ZLea Anna Cooperhttps://saviorsofearth.ning.com/profile/LeaAnnaCooper
Thank you, Clauss. It's appreciated. I truly cannot see why anyone cares to argue facts and accurate predictions, by Meier. He's been very accurate, if people would just take time and actually read the information. But...I guess many just don't have the time. Oh well, their loss. I still keep an open mind for all possibilities, with the exception of anyone flying down here to save us. That be up to WE...the people. Love and light...Lea<br />
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Thank you, Clauss. It's appreciated. I truly cannot see why anyone cares to argue facts and accurate predictions, by Meier. He's been very accurate, if people would just take time and actually read the information. But...I guess many just don't have the time. Oh well, their loss. I still keep an open mind for all possibilities, with the exception of anyone flying down here to save us. That be up to WE...the people. Love and light...Lea<br />
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<cite>Clauss Koch said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://saviorsofearth.ning.com/forum/topics/a-distressed-alex-collier?id=2492330%3ATopic%3A192119&page=5#2492330Comment192734"><div>Simone, Trudy and others please be respectful of Lea Anna and Michael. They have given you respect please give them the same.</div>
</blockquote> NO ASCENSION...no pick-up by…tag:saviorsofearth.ning.com,2009-07-17:2492330:Comment:1926632009-07-17T22:52:17.745ZLea Anna Cooperhttps://saviorsofearth.ning.com/profile/LeaAnnaCooper
NO ASCENSION...no pick-up by ETs, no saviors or higher intelligence coming to bail out anyone. It is WE who must make the transition because NO ONE can do this for us. What will happen, I believe, in 2012 is that our spiritual outlook will change, and we will have to face the reality that man has made a mess of this planet and must deal with it, or pay the price of those errors. Our attitudes must change for the betterment of mankind, for not only our sake, but the sake of our children. This is…
NO ASCENSION...no pick-up by ETs, no saviors or higher intelligence coming to bail out anyone. It is WE who must make the transition because NO ONE can do this for us. What will happen, I believe, in 2012 is that our spiritual outlook will change, and we will have to face the reality that man has made a mess of this planet and must deal with it, or pay the price of those errors. Our attitudes must change for the betterment of mankind, for not only our sake, but the sake of our children. This is NOT to predict that those who are ready will not ascend. That would depend largely if or not you choose to leave this life on your own. If a person has the mindset, that they will ascend at the end of the Mayan calender, then so they they shall. To higher dimensions? That would be a yes..but it would be of your own choosing because of 'free will' that no one interferes with...or at least they shouldn't. Many have said that the end of the calendar is just the end of the calender, period..nothing else.<br />
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Everything in this 3 dimensional reality is a complete and total illusion. It's not real...Creation began this is a dark vacuum..so stars, no planets..and certainly no earth. THOUGHT created...not speech, for Creation is energy...is ALL. Therefore, when you look into the mirror, you see Creation...you view his works. Our spirits took on tasks before there was anything here...and we agreed to go though this portal of time and space, to finish these tasks; for as we accumulate knowledge, so does Creation. This is his game. No one person, not even Jmmanuel knew all, for he had to learn from the masters of knowledge before him. Religion is the tie that binds man to ignorance; and this I've found out, even though born and raised a staunch Roman Catholic, I was never comfortable with being forced to go to church and only read scripture. With all the things I'd seen as a child, and the prophetic dreams that didn't make sense until I pulled away from the church, finally began to take shape in my life.<br />
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The difference between others and I...is that I do not claim to have any answers for anyone but me. My search for years now, has been for the truth. To find that which I've now seen as ugly and hurtful to mankind by those that have hidden it for centuries until they now have so much control, it will be difficult to take it back, or to fix it.<br />
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If people choose to ascend, then they choose to leave behind the MESS for our offspring and grandchildren. Is that the correct thing to do? Would it be fair to them, to leave them in the dark for centuries before they found out the truth and wouldn't they have the same revile for us, as some of us now have for those who lust for power and more and more money. Is it them you want to leave this planet to?<br />
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These are the questions we need to ask..not whether or not we'll be saved or picked up and ascent to the stars. The answers lie here with us...and how we reclaim what we once had for what we have now is next to nothing. In a sense you're right, there isn't much time, but those who want to give up shall leave behind a legacy of cowardliness; just because they were so starved for love, they could not stay here to fix the problems and reverse the damage.<br />
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There are things that Billy has said that I do not agree with. One is overpopulation and reducing it to 500 million because that's all this planet was engineered for. I can say with all certainty that if Creation...God, if you will, meant this planet to only hold 500 million people, women would have been designed to carry only 2 children each, and would not be bound by Chinese laws, with horrible punishments for more than 2. We were created to carry children because it was Creations wish...his desire...his Creation; not some elitist person who want to control the world..and everything and everyone in it. People don't understand all that is involved and much of Billy's information includes, if you read it ALL, the fact that we were given the technology decades ago, to run this earth in a clean and eco healthy manner. Even ways to take the salt from the ocean water. This earth is 92% water (or thereabouts) It's government, Monsanto, Oil companies and the greed of the rich to control our food and water supply that has made us look like animals, and they as superior. They want you to ascend...they want you out of here...they want the population down to 500 million as the Georgia Guidestones state. They had those put in Georgia... and it's nothing more than another pagan statue. Another place to give your energy and belief to.<br />
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You have to dig for the truth. I've been at this for years and I'm still searching. I read everything I can get my hands on...I suggest that everyone do the same. People who channel this information are loving souls...but you cannot judge what goes on around you when you're wrapped up in this web of deception. Everyone needs to untangle because you have absolutely no idea what they are channeling...or which deceptive energy interferes.<br />
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There was no Billy Meier hoax. I was 17 years old when those stories broke in the media and got here to the US. If everyone would use their heads...in the 1960's and 70's how else could a hole burned into a tree by a laser happen, without the gun? They were using those lasers in a demo, to prove it wasn't a hoax. You have to equate the time with the evidence. No, I don't believe any part of the population thing. No one will ever get me to. Even in the Christan teaching..or any teachings..did anyone mention population control? If that were true....absolutely true...then that information would have been handed down because of it's importance to the earth. I'll never buy it. But there are others out that should be heard. Love and light...Lea<br />
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<cite>Jure said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://saviorsofearth.ning.com/forum/topics/a-distressed-alex-collier?page=4&commentId=2492330%3AComment%3A192644&x=1#2492330Comment192627"><div>Simone and Lea Anna Cooper can i ask u two what are your belives on 2012 and on ascension? L&L By Jure</div>
</blockquote> Another thing about this pict…tag:saviorsofearth.ning.com,2009-07-17:2492330:Comment:1926512009-07-17T22:01:16.334ZLea Anna Cooperhttps://saviorsofearth.ning.com/profile/LeaAnnaCooper
Another thing about this picture...Billy's pictures are not, as I recall, done in antique black and white. In other words, black and white IS black and white..not antiqued, which this obviously is...by someone.<br />
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<cite>Lea Anna Cooper said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://saviorsofearth.ning.com/forum/topics/a-distressed-alex-collier?page=4&commentId=2492330%3AComment%3A192644&x=1#2492330Comment192616"><div>The hoaxers are the people who are the 'debunkers' of the Meier case. Did you see…</div>
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Another thing about this picture...Billy's pictures are not, as I recall, done in antique black and white. In other words, black and white IS black and white..not antiqued, which this obviously is...by someone.<br />
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<cite>Lea Anna Cooper said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://saviorsofearth.ning.com/forum/topics/a-distressed-alex-collier?page=4&commentId=2492330%3AComment%3A192644&x=1#2492330Comment192616"><div>The hoaxers are the people who are the 'debunkers' of the Meier case. Did you see the video of the two huge saucers being carried on truck-beds through the streets of Russia? Um, why not post those? They can be flown remotely to get peoples attention away from what is currently happening on the ground. Love and light..Lea<br/> <br/>
<cite>Simone said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://saviorsofearth.ning.com/forum/topics/a-distressed-alex-collier?page=3&commentId=2492330%3AComment%3A192605&x=1#2492330Comment192608"><div>Oh hee hee hee, I'm having so much fun what a good laugh.<br/> <a href="http://forgetomori.com/2007/ufos/the-billy-meier-hoax-photographs/" target="_blank">http://forgetomori.com/2007/ufos/the-billy-meier-hoax-photographs/</a><br/> Just do a search on 'Billy Meier hoax' and there is plenty of free information available, this is just one link... how can anybody can take that 'wedding cake' photo seriously? It's the funniest thing I have ever seen.</div>
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</blockquote> There are things that are mat…tag:saviorsofearth.ning.com,2009-07-17:2492330:Comment:1926502009-07-17T21:54:45.271ZMichael Hornhttps://saviorsofearth.ning.com/profile/MichaelHorn
There are things that are matters of opinion...and then there are facts.<br />
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Facts, of course, have to be established through scientific, logical means.
There are things that are matters of opinion...and then there are facts.<br />
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Opinions can be argued, facts can't be.<br />
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Facts, of course, have to be established through scientific, logical means. Thank you for your respond :)…tag:saviorsofearth.ning.com,2009-07-17:2492330:Comment:1926492009-07-17T21:51:03.331ZJurehttps://saviorsofearth.ning.com/profile/Jure
Thank you for your respond :) I just had to ask because i wanted to see your view on this. But i still dont understand why do we people have to argue what is right and wrong and what is hoax and what is not :) i know that it makes us mad if someone says this is right and your stuff is wrong :) but still we have a choice to say in our minds "ok this is your truth and not mine" and just send a smille on their way:). What im trying to say is that more we argue about this things more we as people…
Thank you for your respond :) I just had to ask because i wanted to see your view on this. But i still dont understand why do we people have to argue what is right and wrong and what is hoax and what is not :) i know that it makes us mad if someone says this is right and your stuff is wrong :) but still we have a choice to say in our minds "ok this is your truth and not mine" and just send a smille on their way:). What im trying to say is that more we argue about this things more we as people get separated :( for 0 reason because someone says eggs are better than pizza ^^. Jure loves u all @-->-- Now okay ...let us all join t…tag:saviorsofearth.ning.com,2009-07-17:2492330:Comment:1926302009-07-17T20:56:17.424ZTrudyhttps://saviorsofearth.ning.com/profile/Trudy
Now okay ...let us all join together in Peace and lets sing…
Now okay ...let us all join together in Peace and lets sing :<br />
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<object width="445" height="364"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/xscZeFD2m_o&hl=nl&fs=1&color1=0xcc2550&color2=0xe87a9f&border=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="never"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/xscZeFD2m_o&hl=nl&fs=1&color1=0xcc2550&color2=0xe87a9f&border=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="never" width="445" height="364"></embed></object> Simone and Lea Anna Cooper ca…tag:saviorsofearth.ning.com,2009-07-17:2492330:Comment:1926272009-07-17T20:46:31.360ZJurehttps://saviorsofearth.ning.com/profile/Jure
Simone and Lea Anna Cooper can i ask u two what are your belives on 2012 and on ascension? L&L By Jure
Simone and Lea Anna Cooper can i ask u two what are your belives on 2012 and on ascension? L&L By Jure Simone...why not put your rea…tag:saviorsofearth.ning.com,2009-07-17:2492330:Comment:1926232009-07-17T20:25:21.448ZLea Anna Cooperhttps://saviorsofearth.ning.com/profile/LeaAnnaCooper
Simone...why not put your reading skill to work, and find out what he's been trying to tell you. Reading is knowledge, accumulated knowledge is wisdom and wisdom is able to find truth. Love you ...Lea<br />
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<cite>Simone said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://saviorsofearth.ning.com/forum/topics/a-distressed-alex-collier?x=1&id=2492330%3ATopic%3A192119&page=4#2492330Comment192615"><div>He he he, yes, LEARN do a google search 'billy meier hoax' he he he, I see that any response further feeds the…</div>
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Simone...why not put your reading skill to work, and find out what he's been trying to tell you. Reading is knowledge, accumulated knowledge is wisdom and wisdom is able to find truth. Love you ...Lea<br />
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<cite>Simone said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://saviorsofearth.ning.com/forum/topics/a-distressed-alex-collier?x=1&id=2492330%3ATopic%3A192119&page=4#2492330Comment192615"><div>He he he, yes, LEARN do a google search 'billy meier hoax' he he he, I see that any response further feeds the ego and defensiveness. Why do you try so hard to convince... and yet claim that each person must seek their own truth?<br/> <br/>
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<a href="http://theyfly.com/PDF/Scientific%20Experts.PDF">http://theyfly.com/PDF/Scientific%20Experts.PDF</a><br/>
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<a href="http://theyfly.com/PDF/PhotoAnalysis.pdf">http://theyfly.com/PDF/PhotoAnalysis.pdf</a><br/>
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<a href="http://theyfly.com/PDF/UFOSoundRecordings.pdf">http://theyfly.com/PDF/UFOSoundRecordings.pdf</a></div>
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</blockquote> Did you really take a good lo…tag:saviorsofearth.ning.com,2009-07-17:2492330:Comment:1926212009-07-17T20:18:51.261ZLea Anna Cooperhttps://saviorsofearth.ning.com/profile/LeaAnnaCooper
Did you really take a good look at that concocted picture with the blue circle? Can't you tell that was added AFTER by the people who doctored the photos? You can see that someone took the original photo, took a picture of the trash, cut out that area and added it after, to recreate the photo as you see it. I don't know of ANY trash can that could last for as long as Billy's pictures are old. Not only that, but when pictures of the wedding cake were taken, they didn't make plastic trash cans.…
Did you really take a good look at that concocted picture with the blue circle? Can't you tell that was added AFTER by the people who doctored the photos? You can see that someone took the original photo, took a picture of the trash, cut out that area and added it after, to recreate the photo as you see it. I don't know of ANY trash can that could last for as long as Billy's pictures are old. Not only that, but when pictures of the wedding cake were taken, they didn't make plastic trash cans. Hellloo. Sorry, 'ya just gotta come up with something better than that. If you would have even listened to George Green, putting Michael Horn out of the picture completely, you would know how the wedding 'function's which those layers of balls spin in opposite directions, and they make it possible for the ship to fly. Magnetic's... Love Lea<br />
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<cite>Simone said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://saviorsofearth.ning.com/forum/topics/a-distressed-alex-collier?page=3&commentId=2492330%3AComment%3A192609&x=1#2492330Comment192608"><div>Oh hee hee hee, I'm having so much fun what a good laugh.<br/> <a href="http://forgetomori.com/2007/ufos/the-billy-meier-hoax-photographs/" target="_blank">http://forgetomori.com/2007/ufos/the-billy-meier-hoax-photographs/</a> Just do a search on 'Billy Meier hoax' and there is plenty of free information available, this is just one link... how can anybody can take that 'wedding cake' photo seriously? It's the funniest thing I have ever seen.</div>
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